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Old Feb 11th, 2019, 20:42   #21
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Wow, 800£ gives a good price per hour



Not correct. The bolt holes in the absorbers have plenty of play to adjust for camber.
If you plan to change the balljoint only, then the safest, simplest and Volvo workshop way of disassembling the balljoint is using ratchet straps around both control arms and pull it/them down with it.
Watch the video in the link. No camber setting!
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Old Feb 11th, 2019, 21:07   #22
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actually, Marvin is correct.
I remember when i had it first set, on a 3d (dual camera) machine, i had access to system computer and it was showing how to adjust camber on these 2 bolts on shock#

100% sure of this thing

so.. temporary plan of action (that is- to be changed to suit the needs):
possibly soon change both these balljoints, observe car behaviour afterwards- maybe ill get away without traction, maybe not

if i do need traction after this, it will be around £50 at general garage 3 miles from home or around £70 at volvo independent 10 minutes walk from home

then summer- if i still feel like it- change shocks, arms, droplinks, whatnot
estimated cost of parts £400 (plus spring compressors)
i feel confident that i can do it all myself
after that- same machine, 3D traction on 4 wheels for around £20.. maybe £25(inflation)
third year in a row turning up for the same thing.. they`ll look at me like i`m crazy

explanation:
2017- inner steering joints replaced, traction after
2018- CV joint replaced, traction after
2019... i`m coooominnnggg!!
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Old Feb 11th, 2019, 21:27   #23
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copied straight from VIDA (each time i need to look into it i have to reboot to windows and then back to my "home" environment, brrrrrrr)
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Checking the camber angle, front

Check the camber angle on both sides.

Adjusting the camber angle, front

M6100285 Conditions
The camber angle is adjusted by moving the stub axle at the upper hole in the spring strut outwards or inwards depending on the value measured.
If the stub axle is centred in the spring strut, the degree of adjustment is ± 0.5°.
Adjustment
Raise the front end.
Remove
the instrument
the wheel.
Replace the screws and nuts securing the spring strut to the stub axle. Tighten to light contact.
Press the stub axle in or out to the maximum, depending on the value measured in relation to the spring strut.
Tighten the screws according to Tightening torque .
Install
the wheel. See Installing wheels .
the instrument and make a new adjustment according to the instructions.
Lower the car on the turn table. Rock the car a few times. Check the values.
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Old Feb 16th, 2019, 23:20   #24
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I replaced mine and the inner tie rod in my garage, one Friday morning last November. Quite a straight forward job if you are handy with tools and feel confident enough to do it. My ball joint was about £80 from Volvo, but as I did the track rod end and inner tie rod at the same time they came to about £270 all in. Still cheaper than just the quote from Volvo for the ball joint alone. Watch the FRP on YouTube. Volvo Control Arm & Ball Joint Replacement - No Press Needed! (S60, S80, V70, XC70, XC90).

That tool is a god send.
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Old Feb 17th, 2019, 13:35   #25
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I had a go at it on friday.

Didn't manage to insert new one in..
Looks like it was a fraction of mm bigger, and indeed, sitting quite low over the driveway, it didn't provide enough space for swinging the hammer..

Old (pictured in first post) ball joint turned out not to be damaged, too. The gaiter was whole, only slipped off the rod. Grease still in.

So I put the gaiter the way it was supposed to be, and fitted old one back. No problems bashing this OBE back in.

Maybe I wouldn't do that, but on this occasion I had some more time to inspect suspension, and I know I will need to strip it out kind of soon.

So I'll change these ball joints on that occasion.
It will be a lot easier with whole hub/shock assembly out.

So..
Ball joints.
Bushes on wishbones not quite there yet, but not far either, I'll try to attach some photos later.
Spring dampers atop of shock absorber pretty much disintegrated from age.
No spring cushion at the bottom of spring?
I can't say are the droplinks good or not, but with their price, it is likely I'll be changing these anyway.
And quite possibly shocks.. £150 for pair of Sachs' from Poland.. Good price?
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Old Feb 18th, 2019, 17:29   #26
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[QUOTE=ThomasG;2496411]I had a go at it on friday.

Didn't manage to insert new one in..
and indeed, sitting quite low over the driveway, it didn't provide enough space for swinging the hammer..

Thats what I found and hence the sugestion to remove the complete hub for an extra 15 mins spannering.
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I had a go at it on friday.

Didn't manage to insert new one in..
and indeed, sitting quite low over the driveway, it didn't provide enough space for swinging the hammer..
Thats what I found and hence the sugestion to remove the complete hub for an extra 15 mins spannering.
would you believe that i actually tried
but not the hub by itself.
hub with shock as a whole

brake calipper off, steering rod off, sensor out, CV out (was out anyway) these 3 atop wouldnt be a problem..
couldnt undo droplink..


getting some tools now:
got extandable (220-430mm) ratchett
next is some longer breaker bar and some half inch extensions
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Old Feb 19th, 2019, 09:36   #28
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Are you certain that you have the right ball joint?
I seem to recall that there are two different diameters only mm apart?
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Are you certain that you have the right ball joint?
I seem to recall that there are two different diameters only mm apart?
Ahh..

Didn't know. Worth checking
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You can tell by that the cone part of the shaft that meets the control arm is very different on the two ball joints so compare to the old one.

Older:Newer:
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