S60 ATF light re-appeared read on

hmsggg · Jan 14th, 2011, 13:36

after having a atf leak and changing the pipe myself and topping up the transmission myself with Carlube ATF Universal JWS3309 SPEC? then I had the light reset at Volvo and all seemed fine after about a couple of months relatively chilled driving I decided to give it some up a long steep hill past a few cars at the brow of the hill I eased off as was doing good speed the ATF light re-appeared I can only think that it's down to this crap oil I have put in as the car is running fine now but i havn't give it any since this happened I think that the oil overheated and sent some message to trigger the service light. Could this be down to me putting in the oil and doing nothing else? the oil is black and I have put about 12ltrs through it when there was a leak I think I need to save for the real liquid gold should I get this done at volvo or can I do it myself any advise welcomed and appreciated.

GMad · Jan 14th, 2011, 13:56

If the oil is black, either something within the box is or has contaminated it, or you didn't get all the old crud out!
The oil in my box (67000 miles) is bright red!

hmsggg · Jan 16th, 2011, 01:13

I didn't do a proper flush just what leaked out I replaced.

Clan · Jan 16th, 2011, 08:22

The black in the oil are metal particles .. which circulate with the oil and wears everything it contacts , bearings , clutches etc ... might be worth flushing and changing the complete oil for £100 or so but long term looks like trouble ..

hmsggg · Jan 16th, 2011, 11:54

yeah this is what I was thinking my diagnosis is down to the valve body itself I think there is not enough pressure build up on pull off as there is a bit of delay software update has been done was wondering if this software is permanent as I have had the battery off a few times. I would of thought it is permanent. reading this link I found sort of verifies it I think.

http://pdfcast.org/pdf/aw-55-50sn-af...nd-valve-body-

gazza12345 · Jan 16th, 2011, 15:42

My atf fluid was very dark brown. & gears were not smooth & snatching. The boxs hold about 7.2L of atf. But when draining them with the gearbox sump plug out you will only get about 4.5 to 5L Out of them. What i did was drain the 4.5 to 5L out then filled it back up & run it for 2 weeks. Then did the drain & fill again. But this time the atf fluid was black. New atf fluid as strong cleaning additives in it & this had cleaned all the crap out of the box. I did another 3 drains & refills over the next 6 weeks. The atf is now red & been like that for the past year & 1/2. The atf fluid is fully synthetic & around £10 a Litre. Don't go putting cheap none synthetic atf in it. It cannot take the heat & burns then kills the box.

hmsggg · Jan 18th, 2011, 18:33

this sounds like a good idea and makes sense were did you get your oil?

gazza12345 · Jan 21st, 2011, 23:23

This is what i put in. Carlube ATF-U Automatic Transmission Fluid is a fully synthetic fluid offering advanced lubrication protection for automatic transmissions which meets the following requirements.

Specifications: GM Dexron VI, Ford Mercon V, MB236.6, BMW 7045E, Toyota T-IV, Mitsubishi/Hyundai SPII , SPIII, Chrysler ATF, ATF3+, ATF4+, Honda Z1, Nissan Matic D, J, LT 71141, JWS3309, Volvo1161540 & VW/Audi G-055-025-AZ.

fungus · Jan 23rd, 2011, 10:06

Try ordering this part number from a Vauxhall dealer 93160393. It is JWS3309 spec oil. 12 litres for about £85. Vauxhalls toyota Volvo have the same AW55 gearbox. If the wrong fluid is used it will seriously damage the gbox.
See this link http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showth...09+part&page=5

fungus · Jan 23rd, 2011, 10:28

Or here..
http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showth...ght=aw55+flush
When i did my S60 2004 i didn't change any seals for the cooler hose, job took two hours including tea drinking.
Lots of info on the net some with pics. or buy VADIS for around £5.
Just remember to check the oil level the after the car has been driven for 30mins with the engine running.

Jan 14th, 2011, 13:36	#1
hmsggg Member Last Online: Mar 7th, 2013 17:35 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: llanybydder	S60 ATF light re-appeared read on after having a atf leak and changing the pipe myself and topping up the transmission myself with Carlube ATF Universal JWS3309 SPEC? then I had the light reset at Volvo and all seemed fine after about a couple of months relatively chilled driving I decided to give it some up a long steep hill past a few cars at the brow of the hill I eased off as was doing good speed the ATF light re-appeared I can only think that it's down to this crap oil I have put in as the car is running fine now but i havn't give it any since this happened I think that the oil overheated and sent some message to trigger the service light. Could this be down to me putting in the oil and doing nothing else? the oil is black and I have put about 12ltrs through it when there was a leak I think I need to save for the real liquid gold should I get this done at volvo or can I do it myself any advise welcomed and appreciated.

Jan 16th, 2011, 08:22	#4
Clan Experienced Member Last Online: Yesterday 23:47 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: L/H side	The black in the oil are metal particles .. which circulate with the oil and wears everything it contacts , bearings , clutches etc ... might be worth flushing and changing the complete oil for £100 or so but long term looks like trouble .. __________________ My comments are only based on my opinions and vast experience .

Jan 14th, 2011, 13:56	#2
GMad Premier Member Last Online: Nov 5th, 2014 09:53 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Telford	If the oil is black, either something within the box is or has contaminated it, or you didn't get all the old crud out! The oil in my box (67000 miles) is bright red!

Jan 16th, 2011, 01:13	#3
hmsggg Member Last Online: Mar 7th, 2013 17:35 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: llanybydder	I didn't do a proper flush just what leaked out I replaced.

Jan 16th, 2011, 11:54	#5
hmsggg Member Last Online: Mar 7th, 2013 17:35 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: llanybydder	yeah this is what I was thinking my diagnosis is down to the valve body itself I think there is not enough pressure build up on pull off as there is a bit of delay software update has been done was wondering if this software is permanent as I have had the battery off a few times. I would of thought it is permanent. reading this link I found sort of verifies it I think. http://pdfcast.org/pdf/aw-55-50sn-af...nd-valve-body-

Jan 16th, 2011, 15:42	#6
gazza12345 Junior Member Last Online: Jul 1st, 2013 22:41 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: sheffield	My atf fluid was very dark brown. & gears were not smooth & snatching. The boxs hold about 7.2L of atf. But when draining them with the gearbox sump plug out you will only get about 4.5 to 5L Out of them. What i did was drain the 4.5 to 5L out then filled it back up & run it for 2 weeks. Then did the drain & fill again. But this time the atf fluid was black. New atf fluid as strong cleaning additives in it & this had cleaned all the crap out of the box. I did another 3 drains & refills over the next 6 weeks. The atf is now red & been like that for the past year & 1/2. The atf fluid is fully synthetic & around £10 a Litre. Don't go putting cheap none synthetic atf in it. It cannot take the heat & burns then kills the box.

Jan 18th, 2011, 18:33	#7
hmsggg Member Last Online: Mar 7th, 2013 17:35 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: llanybydder	this sounds like a good idea and makes sense were did you get your oil?

Jan 21st, 2011, 23:23	#8
gazza12345 Junior Member Last Online: Jul 1st, 2013 22:41 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: sheffield	This is what i put in. Carlube ATF-U Automatic Transmission Fluid is a fully synthetic fluid offering advanced lubrication protection for automatic transmissions which meets the following requirements. Specifications: GM Dexron VI, Ford Mercon V, MB236.6, BMW 7045E, Toyota T-IV, Mitsubishi/Hyundai SPII , SPIII, Chrysler ATF, ATF3+, ATF4+, Honda Z1, Nissan Matic D, J, LT 71141, JWS3309, Volvo1161540 & VW/Audi G-055-025-AZ.

Jan 23rd, 2011, 10:06	#9
fungus Member Last Online: Oct 26th, 2022 09:12 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Spalding	Try ordering this part number from a Vauxhall dealer 93160393. It is JWS3309 spec oil. 12 litres for about £85. Vauxhalls toyota Volvo have the same AW55 gearbox. If the wrong fluid is used it will seriously damage the gbox. See this link http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showth...09+part&page=5

Jan 23rd, 2011, 10:28	#10
fungus Member Last Online: Oct 26th, 2022 09:12 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Spalding	Or here.. http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showth...ght=aw55+flush When i did my S60 2004 i didn't change any seals for the cooler hose, job took two hours including tea drinking. Lots of info on the net some with pics. or buy VADIS for around £5. Just remember to check the oil level the after the car has been driven for 30mins with the engine running.

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