Oil level

Geordiesteve · Mar 2nd, 2020, 18:46

Guys thoughts please.
I posted a while back as my 19 reg V90 R design got recovered due to high oil level. They said it was too full. Ever since then it's been 3/4 full, which I found stamrange as surely I should be able to have it sat at full until it depletes naturally.
I've now took it back into the dealer as its went from 3/4 back to full. This cannot be right surely?

James77 · Mar 2nd, 2020, 20:57

No it's not good that's a fair bit of oil dilution.

What is your driving style? Advice is you need to do fairly regular 30 odd minute trips at 70 to allow a full regen. It's partial regen thatcauses the blowback.

Service manager at my dealership says they've got diesel cars in regularly for the problem and Volvo uk is covering under warranty. They need a permanent fix it's not on. The volvo system appears too sensitive.

My mother's RR informs you a regen is required so you can manage it.

Geordiesteve · Mar 2nd, 2020, 21:13

Daily commute about 11 mile 30 minutes mainly B roads so typically 30 - 40.
Will get a run at 70 but only once a week or so.
Is there anything I should be stipulating when it's in. Seen that this is the 2nd time now for the same issue?

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Originally Posted by James77

No it's not good that's a fair bit of oil dilution.

What is your driving style? Advice is you need to do fairly regular 30 odd minute trips at 70 to allow a full regen. It's partial regen thatcauses the blowback.

Service manager at my dealership says they've got diesel cars in regularly for the problem and Volvo uk is covering under warranty. They need a permanent fix it's not on. The volvo system appears too sensitive.

My mother's RR informs you a regen is required so you can manage it.

volvo for ever · Mar 3rd, 2020, 06:22

Normal oil quantity is 5.2litres if message come up overfilled then they renew oil /filter and reduce oil by 0.5 litres this should sort out any issues as long as they have done correct process

Steve XC60 · Mar 3rd, 2020, 12:45

Lots of discussion on this issue here which you may find useful:
https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=296166

Seems that service engineers are only 3/4 filling the oil and not resetting the gauge so as to allow for a few failed regens between each service before the oil overfill warning is triggered.

I trust this is just a short term fix as it does not seem like a sensible long term approach....

I think Volvo should update the software to show a light on the dash when a regen is happening. Ideally they would go one step further and allow the driver to delay or schedule a regen for when they are on a journey which will allow the regen to run through fully.

Fursty Ferret · Mar 3rd, 2020, 13:11

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Daily commute about 11 mile 30 minutes mainly B roads so typically 30 - 40.

Did the dealer recommend a diesel based on that commute?

Geordiesteve · Mar 3rd, 2020, 18:38

Got the car back. Service dept said its been fully checked and no issues. Pretty much as you said.
The lady said Volvo have instructs them to fill 3/4 which allows for any regeneration.

Chief inspector · Mar 3rd, 2020, 19:13

Mine was in for this, I was told it wasn’t overfilled and they recalibrated it.....

Its saying overfilled again!

gaby · Mar 3rd, 2020, 20:41

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Originally Posted by Geordiesteve

Got the car back. Service dept said its been fully checked and no issues. Pretty much as you said.
The lady said Volvo have instructs them to fill 3/4 which allows for any regeneration.

I would be worried if the engine oil of my car would get mixed with up to 25% of fuel.

BroadwayBlueshirt · Mar 4th, 2020, 12:38

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Originally Posted by gaby

I would be worried if the engine oil of my car would get mixed with up to 25% of fuel.

As would I. Very much so.

But having come from a 2008 Jag XF I`ve read a lot on this problem. It`s very commen with them too. But my pennyworth is, in the days of a dipstick (which mu Jag had) you never filled it to the top mark anyway. It was always 'in between low and high' was sufficient. This may well be the case here but I know what you are saying.
I presume a 3/4 full oil level is sufficient or Volvo could be looking at a lot of claims in the future.

Manufacturers should never have done away with the dipstick. It was one of the best 'early warnings' you could get on a derv car.

Mar 2nd, 2020, 18:46	#1
Geordiesteve Junior Member Last Online: Jul 23rd, 2020 12:24 Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Newcastle	Oil level Guys thoughts please. I posted a while back as my 19 reg V90 R design got recovered due to high oil level. They said it was too full. Ever since then it's been 3/4 full, which I found stamrange as surely I should be able to have it sat at full until it depletes naturally. I've now took it back into the dealer as its went from 3/4 back to full. This cannot be right surely?

Mar 2nd, 2020, 20:57	#2
James77 Senior Member Last Online: Apr 25th, 2024 08:16 Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Fleet	No it's not good that's a fair bit of oil dilution. What is your driving style? Advice is you need to do fairly regular 30 odd minute trips at 70 to allow a full regen. It's partial regen thatcauses the blowback. Service manager at my dealership says they've got diesel cars in regularly for the problem and Volvo uk is covering under warranty. They need a permanent fix it's not on. The volvo system appears too sensitive. My mother's RR informs you a regen is required so you can manage it. __________________ MY19 Volvo XC60 T5 AWD, Fusion Red, Blonde Leather, Dark Tints, 19inch wheels on summers, 18inch ALUTEC on winters.

Mar 3rd, 2020, 12:45	#5
Steve XC60 Structural member Last Online: Apr 26th, 2024 18:34 Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: South East	Lots of discussion on this issue here which you may find useful: https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=296166 Seems that service engineers are only 3/4 filling the oil and not resetting the gauge so as to allow for a few failed regens between each service before the oil overfill warning is triggered. I trust this is just a short term fix as it does not seem like a sensible long term approach.... I think Volvo should update the software to show a light on the dash when a regen is happening. Ideally they would go one step further and allow the driver to delay or schedule a regen for when they are on a journey which will allow the regen to run through fully. __________________ XC60 Mk1 2011(61) Pan Roof XC60 Mk2 2018(67) Bigger Pan Roof

Mar 3rd, 2020, 19:13	#8
Chief inspector Master Member Last Online: Mar 11th, 2022 08:02 Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Global Village	Mine was in for this, I was told it wasn’t overfilled and they recalibrated it..... Its saying overfilled again! __________________ 2018 V90 Momentum Pro

Mar 3rd, 2020, 06:22	#4
volvo for ever Premier Member Last Online: Feb 4th, 2023 15:10 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: uk	Normal oil quantity is 5.2litres if message come up overfilled then they renew oil /filter and reduce oil by 0.5 litres this should sort out any issues as long as they have done correct process

Mar 3rd, 2020, 18:38	#7
Geordiesteve Junior Member Last Online: Jul 23rd, 2020 12:24 Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Newcastle	Got the car back. Service dept said its been fully checked and no issues. Pretty much as you said. The lady said Volvo have instructs them to fill 3/4 which allows for any regeneration.

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