Can anyone tell me if these 245 calipers are ATE or Girling?

Peter222 · Jan 30th, 2023, 15:43

Hi all, I want to replace my rear calipers, as one is seized open and the other is seized closed.

I tried finding the so-called service plate to find a helpful "1" or "2" for Girling or ATE, but if the service plate is there I can't find it.

I took left and right rear photos as best I could. Can the caliper maker be determined from them?

Or does it even matter what make they are, as the mounts seem similar?

If it helps, the car is a 1979 RHD model for the UK market.

Many thanks for any help.

Peter

P.S. no idea why one pic has rotated itself, but can't seem to fix it.

Bob 1967 · Jan 30th, 2023, 17:19

I would say Girling

Clifford Pope · Jan 30th, 2023, 17:43

Isn't the rule that if the pad pins are secured by R-clips then they are giRling?

Bob 1967 · Jan 30th, 2023, 20:43

From turbobricks website

Bob 1967 · Jan 30th, 2023, 20:50

https://www.skandix.de/en/spare-part...e-caliper/519/

Just for viewing purposes.

Bugjam1999 · Jan 31st, 2023, 18:07

Since you’re replacing both, replace them with girling irrespective of what was there before- the mounts to the car and connection to the brake pipe are the same, but pads for girling calipers are far easier to find than ate.

Cheers

Bob 1967 · Jan 31st, 2023, 20:31

I would estimate about £100 per corner for Callipers, pads and fittings.
I got mine from brakeparts.co.uk about 5 years ago.

https://brakeparts.co.uk/shop/Volvo/...el%20Cylinders
P.S
Ridex do them cheaper.

Peter222 · Feb 6th, 2023, 15:25

Thanks very much chaps for the snippets. I've found well-priced Ridex components here:

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/...p245/2767-2-1?

This page is what loads when I put in the car's reg number. But there are two types of caliper offered:

1. RIDEX 78B0768 Brake Caliper behind the axle, Rear Axle Left, RIDEX 78B0758 Brake Caliper behind the axle, Rear Axle Right

2. RIDEX 78B1544 Brake Caliper Left, Rear Axle, with holding frame, RIDEX 78B1245 Brake Caliper Rear Axle, Right, with holding frame

Should I go for the first or the second?

230ina245 · Feb 7th, 2023, 07:58

Hi
Is the holding frame something that was on cars for the American market? - a safety device of some kind.
I've not seen one but heard references to them on an American web site as people usually remove them to make access to the brakes easier or when fitting larger wheels.
Tim

classicswede · Feb 13th, 2023, 12:38

UK spec brakes https://www.classicswede.org/shop/24...kes-200-series

Jan 30th, 2023, 17:19	#2
Bob 1967 Master Member Last Online: Apr 23rd, 2024 18:27 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Dublin View Photos By: Bob 1967	I would say Girling __________________ Cowboy used to be a trade , now it means lack of one.

Jan 30th, 2023, 20:43	#4
Bob 1967 Master Member Last Online: Apr 23rd, 2024 18:27 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Dublin View Photos By: Bob 1967	From turbobricks website __________________ Cowboy used to be a trade , now it means lack of one.

Jan 30th, 2023, 20:50	#5
Bob 1967 Master Member Last Online: Apr 23rd, 2024 18:27 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Dublin View Photos By: Bob 1967	https://www.skandix.de/en/spare-part...e-caliper/519/ Just for viewing purposes. __________________ Cowboy used to be a trade , now it means lack of one.

Jan 31st, 2023, 20:31	#7
Bob 1967 Master Member Last Online: Apr 23rd, 2024 18:27 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Dublin View Photos By: Bob 1967	I would estimate about £100 per corner for Callipers, pads and fittings. I got mine from brakeparts.co.uk about 5 years ago. https://brakeparts.co.uk/shop/Volvo/...el%20Cylinders P.S Ridex do them cheaper. __________________ Cowboy used to be a trade , now it means lack of one. Last edited by Bob 1967; Jan 31st, 2023 at 20:36.

Feb 13th, 2023, 12:38	#10
classicswede Trader Volvo in my veins Last Online: Today 01:54 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Anglesey	UK spec brakes https://www.classicswede.org/shop/24...kes-200-series __________________ http://www.classicswede.org www.classicswede.co.uk

Jan 30th, 2023, 17:43	#3
Clifford Pope Not an expert but ... Last Online: Yesterday 17:57 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Boncath	Isn't the rule that if the pad pins are secured by R-clips then they are giRling?

Jan 31st, 2023, 18:07	#6
Bugjam1999 Master Member Last Online: Yesterday 00:04 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: London and Cambridge	Since you’re replacing both, replace them with girling irrespective of what was there before- the mounts to the car and connection to the brake pipe are the same, but pads for girling calipers are far easier to find than ate. Cheers

Feb 6th, 2023, 15:25	#8
Peter222 New Member Last Online: Apr 11th, 2023 16:07 Join Date: Nov 2021 Location: London	Thanks very much chaps for the snippets. I've found well-priced Ridex components here: https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/...p245/2767-2-1? This page is what loads when I put in the car's reg number. But there are two types of caliper offered: 1. RIDEX 78B0768 Brake Caliper behind the axle, Rear Axle Left, RIDEX 78B0758 Brake Caliper behind the axle, Rear Axle Right 2. RIDEX 78B1544 Brake Caliper Left, Rear Axle, with holding frame, RIDEX 78B1245 Brake Caliper Rear Axle, Right, with holding frame Should I go for the first or the second?

Feb 7th, 2023, 07:58	#9
230ina245 Member Last Online: May 2nd, 2024 07:47 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Leics	Hi Is the holding frame something that was on cars for the American market? - a safety device of some kind. I've not seen one but heard references to them on an American web site as people usually remove them to make access to the brakes easier or when fitting larger wheels. Tim

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