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Old Jun 14th, 2018, 06:59   #1
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Default is there a coolant air bleed on a P3

There is absolutely nothing in VIDA about bleeding the system. and everything on the WWW is about p2 and older.

Since I changed my rad on my 2012 XC70 Im still loosing a bit of water but not from any rad leak, The strange thing is every morning, stone cold I remove the cap and the level rises but not back to full.

I seem to be storing a lot of pressure in the system which may be blowing water past the O ring seals at the rad, maybe the cap is in need of change!

Anyone know if and where the bleed is located?

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You're right about there being not much about P3's out there. 850s-lots, P2s-quite a lot, P3s are still in the making. Looking at the "How many left" website, there are only 108 of my particular model on the road just now.
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I had a similar problem on my v70 when i bought it but i was just loosing water. Turned out someone hadn't put the cap back on properly on the filler bottle and the seal inside the cap was pulling out of shape and not sitting/ sealing properly.
After a few weeks of occasional top ups, making sure the cap went back on properly so the seals didn't catch going on I've not had any problems since. Worth checking. There's a small seal at the bottom and a larger one further up, on mine anyway.
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I had a similar problem on my v70 when i bought it but i was just loosing water. Turned out someone hadn't put the cap back on properly on the filler bottle and the seal inside the cap was pulling out of shape and not sitting/ sealing properly.
After a few weeks of occasional top ups, making sure the cap went back on properly so the seals didn't catch going on I've not had any problems since. Worth checking. There's a small seal at the bottom and a larger one further up, on mine anyway.
Indeed there are 2 seals. Mine are certainly working in so much as they are holding pressure but other than that I dont know.
Ive ordered a new cap from volvo for the sake of 21 quid.

It appears that no-one knows ( or isn't telling) if there is a bleed facility, so Ill just have to investigate.
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Indeed there are 2 seals. Mine are certainly working in so much as they are holding pressure but other than that I dont know.
Ive ordered a new cap from volvo for the sake of 21 quid.

It appears that no-one knows ( or isn't telling) if there is a bleed facility, so Ill just have to investigate.
You don't get trouble bleeding , just drive it around for 10 minutes until the thermostat opens , let it cool , top up and that is it .there is a bleed pipe from the back of the head , across the top of the radiator to the coolant tank .
If you have pressure overnight you need to think headgasket or damage to the top of the cylinder liners .
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You don't get trouble bleeding , just drive it around for 10 minutes until the thermostat opens , let it cool , top up and that is it .there is a bleed pipe from the back of the head , across the top of the radiator to the coolant tank .
If you have pressure overnight you need to think headgasket or damage to the top of the cylinder liners .

Thanks, very helpful and pretty much what I've done. I noted in Vida that pipe is called a bleed pipe. That little pipe is always hot and disappears down into a crevice. Apparently there is a "nipple" on the end but it looks to be way out of reach.

Your second point, This I have considered but didn't really want to even think about it so tried to push it from my mind. Ive been trying to tell myself that it wouldn't hold that pressure overnight if it was a HGF and would slowly dissipate. The truth of course is that it probably can. Liner damage, I hadn't thought of and still don't want to as I wont sleep.

The car is like brand new, meticulously maintained with FMDSH and driven very gently, If it is HGF at 72,000 miles then its no better than a bloody MGF!
Im towing a 1.5 ton caravan on a 2 week holiday on Saturday

Is HGF common on these engines? Its a D3 AWD which is really a D5 AWD as most here will already know.
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Thanks, very helpful and pretty much what I've done. I noted in Vida that pipe is called a bleed pipe. That little pipe is always hot and disappears down into a crevice. Apparently there is a "nipple" on the end but it looks to be way out of reach.

Your second point, This I have considered but didn't really want to even think about it so tried to push it from my mind. Ive been trying to tell myself that it wouldn't hold that pressure overnight if it was a HGF and would slowly dissipate. The truth of course is that it probably can. Liner damage, I hadn't thought of and still don't want to as I wont sleep.

The car is like brand new, meticulously maintained with FMDSH and driven very gently, If it is HGF at 72,000 miles then its no better than a bloody MGF!
Im towing a 1.5 ton caravan on a 2 week holiday on Saturday

Is HGF common on these engines? Its a D3 AWD which is really a D5 AWD as most here will already know.
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No it is not common but does happen, 2009 ish to 2013 ish ..
I blame ford for reworking the block around 2008 when they started making them in the Bridgend Ford engine plant ,the edge of the cylinder head is unsupported if you look closely it is undercut to save alloy .whilst the older Pure volvo D5 head is fully supported on a solid block . I believe the head moves around on the gasket as it heats up and cools down every day probably on engines which are used hard a lot .

are you actually loosing coolant ? First place to look is for dampness at the bottom corners of the radiator
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There is absolutely nothing in VIDA about bleeding the system. and everything on the WWW is about p2 and older.

Since I changed my rad on my 2012 XC70 Im still loosing a bit of water but not from any rad leak, The strange thing is every morning, stone cold I remove the cap and the level rises but not back to full.

I seem to be storing a lot of pressure in the system which may be blowing water past the O ring seals at the rad, maybe the cap is in need of change!

Anyone know if and where the bleed is located?

Thanks
No bleeder. Just fill her up, drive around block, check, full again, check fill again. Took me a couple of days before I finally got level right.
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Just to tidy this up, the coolant loss is over, it just needed topping up a few times and seemed to settle after i ran it with the heating on for 10 minutes. Ive just done 1000 miles with the caravan without loosing coolant so im pretty happy that its not a problem.

I did fit a new pressure cap from the stealer so this may or may not have been an influence.

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Just to tidy this up, the coolant loss is over, it just needed topping up a few times and seemed to settle after i ran it with the heating on for 10 minutes. Ive just done 1000 miles with the caravan without loosing coolant so im pretty happy that its not a problem.

I did fit a new pressure cap from the stealer so this may or may not have been an influence.

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After a recent complete coolant drain, and refill, it did take a few hundred miles (couple of weeks) before I had to finally stop topping up the reservoir.

Just to echo others, about a year ago my coolant kept dropping down near the Min marker after long motorway drives. I eventually replaced the reservoir cap with a new genuine Volvo part, and I've never had the problem since.
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