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Long term reliability 10yrs on.

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Old Mar 16th, 2019, 13:09   #1
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Default Long term reliability 10yrs on.

My S80 2.0D SE Lux is now 10 years old. I've had it from new. Did 10k miles per year early on, now my mileage has reduced significantly so in total I'm up to 65k. I know early on a lot of folks were suspicious about Ford cost-cutting and the effect it would have on reliability long term. The car has just sailed through its 10th annual service and MOT. Always serviced at a main dealer.

After a decade's ownership I can reflect on how things have gone so far. In the first 6 months I had to have the sloshing water behind the bulkhead fix and the camshaft sensor needed to be replaced. Since then it's just been routine servicing, 2 sets of tyres and rear brake pads. The main Ford weak point seems to be the rear trailing arm bushes which have been an advisory on my MOT for the past 3 years but are still soldiering on.

Is my experience typical?

Doubtless, having shared my experience something expensive will fall off or go bang next week...
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My S80 2.0D SE Lux is now 10 years old. I've had it from new. Did 10k miles per year early on, now my mileage has reduced significantly so in total I'm up to 65k. I know early on a lot of folks were suspicious about Ford cost-cutting and the effect it would have on reliability long term. The car has just sailed through its 10th annual service and MOT. Always serviced at a main dealer.

After a decade's ownership I can reflect on how things have gone so far. In the first 6 months I had to have the sloshing water behind the bulkhead fix and the camshaft sensor needed to be replaced. Since then it's just been routine servicing, 2 sets of tyres and rear brake pads. The main Ford weak point seems to be the rear trailing arm bushes which have been an advisory on my MOT for the past 3 years but are still soldiering on.

Is my experience typical?

Doubtless, having shared my experience something expensive will fall off or go bang next week...
To be honest i am not sure what your point is? 65,000 miles is not a test for a vehicle, Ford warrant there cheapest vehicles for 60k and even tvr And rovers last 65k. Once you can stick a 2 in the front, I.e. 265k then you can talk reliability...
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Old Mar 16th, 2019, 23:58   #3
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I think adsk still has a point to make as as we all know even new cars can have inherent problems of which some can have serious safety issues. Long term reliability starts on day one of the car's use and continues till it's demise. It's all about Terotechnology.
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Old Mar 17th, 2019, 02:48   #4
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10 years problem free it’s not average. I wonder how the car feels after 10 years. Is it still solid feeling? Or is it lose like a whore after 10 Years of work...?
My v70 is 20 Years old and there are no ruttles or banging in the cabin. Feels very well put together. I am at 136k miles, pretty much same yearly miles average of yours.
Same for my 30 years old 240 ( but rattles in the cabin are common).
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Any vehicle of any age is as reliable as the maintenance carried out on it.

If one belives in preventative maintenance then things get changed as soon as wear is spotted and not when they fail, therefore the car is reliable.
If one ignores the signs and only looks at the car once a year then expect trouble to hit at an in opertunity time like half way up a motorway.

26 year old landrover, 205,000 miles on the clock and I know it will fire up and take me wherever I want at any time I want it to, because it's maintained and looked at regularly, similarly the 10 year old 75,000 mile volvo.

Look at trucks, 6 weekly Safety Maintenance Inspection and a million hard work miles on them.

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Yes and no.
yes if you run maintenance cost regardless, any car will run forever.
No Landy will run 10 Years just with services.as many other cars.
Old Volvos are bit different.
My current 240, 205k miles still run on its original starter motor, alternator and battery is there from 10 Years
Replaced absorbers after 160k miles.
Same for my v70 ( but just 136k on the clock).
I think the point here I to compare new volvo of Ford Era to the Volvo before Ford.
10 Years free of problem without extra maintenance is proof of reliability.
We just need to see how long it will take for parts start failing.
Trough the course of years I have noticed how other cars are reliable and the moment one piece start failing everything else fails following.
With (old) Volvo I have experienced if something fails and you replace it you ll
be fine for another long time.
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Personally any feedback on a car forum has value, so I think it's bit harsh for adsk to be knocked.

My MY2011 D3 ES manual is nearly 8.5 years old, with £115k miles. had it from new and has only had routine maintenance plus boost sensor and rear trailing arm bushes. (Creaky front subframe was sorted under warranty so I dont count that!) Currently have ABS sensor or front n/s wheel bearing needing looking at - ironically the only one to have been replaced about 7 years ago after I whacked a kerb sideways in the snow. Original battery on it's last legs.

Generally I'm pretty pleased with how the car has aged, like the OP!
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In my case low mileage places different demands on the car than if I'd done whatever mileage some might view as being suitable for my opinion to be valid!

I use the car every day for very short journeys - exactly the sort of thing that a DPF/EGR/DMF equipped diesel should dislike.

Let's see if the car lasts another 10 years, if a Euro IV diesel will still be allowed on the roads....
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In my case low mileage places different demands on the car than if I'd done whatever mileage some might view as being suitable for my opinion to be valid!

I use the car every day for very short journeys - exactly the sort of thing that a DPF/EGR/DMF equipped diesel should dislike.

Let's see if the car lasts another 10 years, if a Euro IV diesel will still be allowed on the roads....
THAT is a very good point, well made.
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In my case low mileage places different demands on the car than if I'd done whatever mileage some might view as being suitable for my opinion to be valid!

I use the car every day for very short journeys - exactly the sort of thing that a DPF/EGR/DMF equipped diesel should dislike.

Let's see if the car lasts another 10 years, if a Euro IV diesel will still be allowed on the roads....
Well that is another point, but who needs roads when they have a landrover.

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