Oil additives.

[DSK]

I would always stay clear of any product like slick 50. As mentioned above, they were sued a while ago after some customers started experiencing problems after using it. Such oil treatment claims are just ridiculous and many companies are producing poor products similar to slick 50 which are worthless at the very least.

We do use and stock 'some' Forte products as they are vastly used within the trade and actually work well. Some main dealers may offer it to you, most independant specialists will certainly have it in stock and some decent MOT stations and smaller car repair centres should be able to supply you some if you can't find it at a motor factors store (try a factors that a lot of the trade use in your area).

The only off the shelf products I would use myself if I could not use Forte for anything would be 'Wynns' products.

[4 forty]

this is a oil chemists website, with his experiments and conclusions to useing additives, well worth a look. pictures and evidence produced in trials.

www.bobistheoilguy.com

paul

[VolvMan]

For those interested though I would continue to report back on my experiences with the product XADO - a stay in day due to English weather.

As previously posted did try the gearbox treatment and so far all still in tact. How much it has worked can't tell but after my longest trip yet since the treatment (140 miles to Leeds and back) we are still in one piece.

Before the trip my blue smoke was still a problem, so rightly or wrongly tried their engine treatment. Result again has been promising, blue smoke certainly reduced. Have another tube to add, will see if this eliminates it!

Did try and get hold of "Forte" as DSK suggest, but site indicated trade accounts only so went no further.

My original reason for trying this product was that they indicate Volvo approval. I researched this and it seems valid. The salesman I spoke to at Xado UK www.xado.co.uk was helpful and allayed my suspicions.

His point was that if Volvo had not provided approval they would certainly have been stamped on by Volvo head office, which I suppose is true.

I know there has been much talked about "snake oils" and much confusion for all who try and obtain an objective view of all these products, the web is very confusing, so I hope my experiment is helpful to others.

Hence my post as I was one of those sceptics too

Ever the guinea pig

Volvman

[iGGy]

I presume the car makers will only stamp on them if it's brought to their attention.

If this stuff is suppose to "restores, repairs and reconditions" using "NANO Technology" then how does it actually know when to stop repairing and restoring?

If they'd like to pay for my fairly well worn engine if it finally goes pop when testing their concoction, I'd turn myself into an adorable furry little creature too. Otherwise I'll keep saving for the rebuild at the machinists.

[enginerestore]

Originally Posted by VolvMan

Have just joined the forum to seek some views and advice, please.

I have recently experienced the beginnings of oil loss and blue smoke from my Volvo 940 2.4 SE LTP

After reading posts on this forum I have also searched the internet and come across a product called XADO. Has anyone had experience of this product?

Their web site is http://www.xado.co.uk

I was intrigued, as they seem to have Volvo Approval and provide a range of oils and greases as well?

Any thoughts please

http://www.xado-usa.com/
XADO is “a brand new product that’s 30 years old”. It was discovered accidentally north of Siberia in the early 70’s when workers discovered that when they drilled in a certain area, their drill bits were not wearing out. The ground was analyzed and an ore was discovered that, when introduced to high temperatures, created a ceramic-like layer on metal tools. In the early 90’s, this ore was synthesized and marketed in Europe for use in engines, tools and machinery. Use of XADO quickly spread to over 120 countries. In 2003, a U.S. patent was issued for the XADO product and process.

http://xado-usa.com/testimonials.html
........ A synthetic derivative of the minerals shangite, serpentine and muscovite, Xado’s formulation ......

The Russian project was taken over by engineers in Italy, who found the ideal material for the additive to be the mineral serpentine, which is rich in hydrated magnesium silicate (asbestos)
http://www.xaracon.com/asbestos/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscovite
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serpentine
http://www.galleries.com/minerals/si...t/muscovit.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special...ulltext=Search

[mharriso]

can't help but laugh at the irony of mineral serpentine and the snake oil comments earlier.... priceless....

[VolvMan]

Chow and charltjr and others.

Forgot about this but for what it is worth promised to report back on results.

FYI all "tickety boo" - no more money spent on gearbox to date and still smooth as silk.

Did also buy some of their oil - http://www.xado.co.uk/xado_atomic_en...lubricants.htm - for some reason fuel consumption improved - not sure why - only change this year has been oil so could be the XADO in it!!

Reply may be a bit late and you have all moved on but because all seems OK forgot about reporting back.

VM

[s60ben]

Volvo have a relatively simple view on additives... which was reinforced by the following.

Use of additives in engines
Volvo Car Corporation (VCC) does not recommend the use of any additives for engine oil as it will cause premature wear of the engine. You must be aware that the use of such products are not sanctioned by Volvo nor do they form a part of any of our scheduled service routines. Your warranty claim will be rejected if additives are found to be the cause of premature engine failure.


Use of additives in Auto-transmissions
Volvo Car Corporation (VCC) does not recommend the use of any additives in auto-transmission as it will cause premature wear. You must be aware that the use of such products are not sanctioned by Volvo nor do they form a part of any of our scheduled service routines. Only use the recommended transmission oils listed on VADIS, please DO NOT use any other types of transmission oil as it will cause premature wear of the auto-transmission. Your warranty claim will be rejected if additives or incorrect transmission oil are found to be the cause of premature wear in auto-transmissions

Snake Oils IMHO... all of them...Whatever the salesmen say...

My original reason for trying this product was that they indicate Volvo approval. I researched this and it seems valid. The salesman I spoke to at Xado UK www.xado.co.uk was helpful and allayed my suspicions.

His point was that if Volvo had not provided approval they would certainly have been stamped on by Volvo head office, which I suppose is true.

so given Volvo's stance... I hardly think that they have "recommended" Xado have they?

[VolvMan]

s60ben,

Not sure why you are antagonistic about this product. All I said it worked for me. By your tone and in depth knowledge of the Volvo warranty, are you a Volvo employee??

My 940 2.4 SE LTP is well out of Warranty. I am naturally inquisitive and so gave it a go.

As to you comment

..."so given Volvo's stance... I hardly think that they have "recommended" Xado have they?"

They must have otherwise they would not have issued their certificate of approval for their oils, which contain the XADO additive. See http://www.xado.co.uk/xado_uk_news_2005.htm.

VM

[Clan]

Thats the Volvo technology corporation , what department is that? Its not the Volvo Car Corporation ... VCC Recommend Castrol .. ???