Amsoil Products Discounts to VOC Members

[Sid60ish]

Originally Posted by amsoil

Like most things in life you generally get what you pay for. If something is really cheap then thats what it usually is. The maths are quite simple if you get the best which lasts longer, gives better protection MPG easier startups etc etc etc you will save money, just not initially.

Absolutely agree that cheap often = nasty but not if it's a major brand - Esso, Mobil, Shell, Castrol etc etc. There are usually other factors at play. However, experience has taught me that expensive does not always equate to best, or even good.

[CTCNetwork]

Hi,

Originally Posted by wacRon

hi chow,total quarts= total crap i did a oil change with this stuff & now my tappets greet me every morning when i start the car & it never did this before the oil change, i only changed the oil 400 miles ago & am gonig to change it already, it was a waste of money so now am going to order some of this good stuff

You needn't worry about chow as he has long since departed ..

Des. . .

[amsoil]

I am sorry to have lost Chow, he brought up interesting points and I believe wrote form the heart. The fact I didn't agree with him is another matter.
For anyone who dosent realise ...I am the Amsoil importer. Consider my writting biased. Don't believe me and do do your own resarch on the web. Then place your orders...
As for dealers; these poor chaps are having one hell of a hard time. It is a fact that more auto service dealers are going to the wall than any other branch (twig) of the economy. If you seriously don't believe that any dealer would to survive offer something to clients that maximises his profits rather than provides the best quality at the best price I am wasting my time.
Having said that I know that I am not as I continually get orders from Volvo owners. Having said this I do wish you all a very merry christmas as its now show time and I may not have any time to reply on this forum until the new year (but I will try )

[RoyMacDonald]

Originally Posted by Sid60ish

Simplest thing is to ask your Volvo dealer exactly what they will use in your car before you take it in. I'd be surprised if a full blown Volvo dealership was using anything second-rate.

As for Mobil etc "dumping" old-spec oil onto Costco etc, (earlier post by Amsoil), I think there is a need to look more closely at what Costco etc are selling. It seldom has U.K. labels on the packs, sometimes not even an English translation, (which may not be legal from an H&S standpoint), and is generally purchased bulk somewhere in the world..........Costco are a global buyer. We've bought Coca-Cola from them in cans printed in Arabic. Whatever, if it conforms to your car's requirements for viscosity and performance and your choice of semi- or full-synthetic - AND is a major brand - where is the problem. As far as I know, Amsoil are neither base-oil refiners nor additive producers, (but I'm happy to be corrected), so they are just blenders. At least Esso/Mobil, Castrol/BP, Shell and Total produce their own base-oils and, of course, sell them into the wholesale market. Think I'll stay with Esso/Mobil or Castrol.

I'd have a lot more respect for a main dealer who said they wern't using the Volvo recommended oil. Then told me what they did use and gave me the option of having the recommended stuff at an extra cost. I think if you go to a Volvo main dealer you should be able to expect the Volvo recommended oil to be used. Where do you draw the line otherwise? Pattern parts because they are cheaper?

Roy

[BrianH]

I have used 0/30 Amsoil from 2001 from 125k to 400k (Mobile 1 from 59k) with by pass filtration taking out dirt down to 1 micron (dirt kills engines).
Laboratory oil anaylsis has shown over fueling, antifreeze to oil contamination and just lately, a tappet riding on the back of the cam (no clearence) iron parts per million rising.
Got all the ideas from Volvo Technical.
Can't fault it. People are now asking will it go 500k...........Easy

BrianH

[RollingThunder]

Just thought I'd add my tuppence worth

Most of my Volvos have been autos - by the nature of Volvos they've been high mileage, all over 100k. I decided to change the ATF on a 960 as the gear changes were getting a bit sluggish and the overall performance was dropping. I looked into the various alternatives and did some reading of the Brickboard - the Volvo Owners Forum of our American friends. After getting resounding positive feedback about Amsoil I bought some from the US and had it shipped over... It wasn't cheap!

The transformation was instant and obvious - it was more responsive, powerful and the economy was improved. To be honest, it had perhaps 160k miles up and I'm not sure whether it had ever been changed, so simply having fresh ATF would have improved matters, but every since I've only used Amsoil. Can't recommend it highly enough.

I know this sounds like a sponsored advert, but I assure you I'm just a happy customer

[GeeJay]

Anyone aware of discounts on Volvo parts?

[hmsggg]

Originally Posted by amsoil

non turbo
1st choice Series 2000 Synthetic 0W-30 Motor Oil
2nd choice SAE 5W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil
3rd choice SAE 10W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil

Automatic Transmission,AW50AWD.....TIV
Synthetic Automatic Transmission Fluid
Automatic Transmission,AW55-50SN.....TIV
Synthetic Automatic Transmission Fluid

Engine, with filter..........5.5 liters[1]
Cooling System, Initial Fill..........8.0 liters
Automatic Transmission, AW55-50SN Initial Fill..........3.0 liters[2]
Automatic Transmission, Total Fill..........7.5 liters
Manual Transmission, M56 TRANS..........2.1 liters

Turbo
1st choice Series 2000 Synthetic 0W-30 Motor Oil
2nd choice SAE 5W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil
3rd choice SAE 10W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil

Automatic Transmission,AW50AWD.....TIV
Synthetic Automatic Transmission Fluid
Automatic Transmission,AW55-50SN.....TIV
Synthetic Automatic Transmission Fluid

Engine, with filter..........5.8 liters[1]
Cooling System, Initial Fill..........8.0 liters
Automatic Transmission, AW55-50SN Initial Fill..........3.0 liters[2]
Automatic Transmission, Total Fill..........7.5 liters
Manual Transmission, M56 TRANS..........2.1 liters

The above is a guide ; do check your owners manual.

Got this of american volvo forum I have read all the threads and the oil below is the one to use.

Benny,
Okay on your say so we submit, the fluid is synthetic.

Heresay and not correct at all. If you live in Clawson, then you work for Suburban Volvo. I can tell you that the part no. of the trans fluid was given to their service department by moi. They ALL said it's not synthetic, but shrugged their shoulders in explaining why it cost $18 a quart. Even the bottle from the Dealers doesn't say it's synthetic. Aisin Warner requires JWS 3309 oil spec fluid for that trans. And it's NOT a synthetic fluid.
What you say in no way shape or form trumps 3 forums who 99% say Mobil 3309 and Volvo trans fluid is one in the same. It's not special and it's not synthetic. No literature exists from Volvo or Mobil to say it's synthetic. None. It's an old wives tale to substantiate the inflated pricing from the Stealerships.

The forums is for education and learning. We have all learned it is Mobil 3309 and NOT synthetic.
Your comment "i have access to all volvo info and technical support" implies that you can find this information. Go ahead and find it then. Find me one shred of evidence that say the Volvo Fluid is synthetic and this has to come from Volvo. Or, rather, find me the source of the Volvo fluid and have them quote that's it's synthetic. You can't provide that. So how do you know so well that's it's synthetic? You absolutely do not know that. You only over heard it and repeated it like it was gospel...
NEW DEALER STOCK, VOLVO TRANSMISSION FLUID - AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION. A MINERAL OIL SUITABLE FOR AW55-50SN AND AW50-42LE. THE OIL PROVIDES AN EASY GEAR CHANGE AT LOW TEMPERATURES AND OPTIMUM PROTECTION AT HIGH TEMPERATURES.
IMPORTANT: THE OIL IS NOT TESTED OR SPECIFIED UNDER STANDARDS OTHER THAN THOSE INDICATED IN THIS LISTING. IN ORDER TO SPECIFY THE CORRECT OIL FOR THE CAR, ALWAYS CHECK THE OWNER'S MANUAL FOR THE CAR
TECHNICAL DATA:
DENSITY: 870 Kg/ cu M
BASE: MINERAL OIL
LOWEST FLOW POINT: -65.2F
FLASH POINT: 388F
VISCOSITY @ 104F: 40 sq mm/sec
VISCOSITY @ 212F: 7.5 sq mm/sec
VOLVO PART NUMBER 1161640.

This is the Manual trans fluid data sheet
NEW DEALER STOCK, VOLVO TRANSMISSION FLUID - SYNTHETIC. A MULTIGRADE SYNTHETIC OIL INTENDED FOR MANUAL TRANSMISSIONS IN PASSENGER CARS. THE OIL HAS VERY GOOD LOW TEMPERATURE PROPERTIES AND ENABLES SMOOTH GEAR CHANGES DOWN TO -40F.THE LOW FRICTION CONTRIBUTES TO LOW FUEL CONSUMPTION. RECOMMENDED FOR ENGINES SUCH AS M56, M58, M90 AND M5M52. THE FLUID HAS BEEN SPECIALLY DEVELOPED FOR THESE TRANSMISSIONS AND HAS NO EQUAL ON THE MARKET. IT OFFERS VERY GOOD GEAR CHANGING AND LOW TEMPERATURE PERFORMANCE.
IMPORTANT: THE OIL IS NOT TESTED OR SPECIFIED UNDER STANDARDS OTHER THAN THOSE INDICATED IN THIS LISTING. IN ORDER TO SPECIFY THE CORRECT OIL FOR THE CAR, ALWAYS CHECK THE OWNER'S MANUAL FOR THE CAR
TECHNICAL DATA:
QUALITY: API GL-4, VOLVO STD. 97308, 10; SAE 5W - 30, (SAE 75W)
DENSITY: 890 Kg/ cu M
BASE: SYNTHETIC
LOWEST FLOW POINT: -54.4F
FLASH POINT: 453F
VISCOSITY @ 104F: NE
VISCOSITY @ 212F: 10.5 sq mm/sec
VOLVO PART NUMBER 1161645.

[RoyMacDonald]

Just a caution about USA claims that an oil is a synthetic, since the big oil companies won the court case they are alowed to label refined mineral oil as synthetic.

Oil sold in Europe must still be correctly identified though.

[BrianH]

Don,

Where are you??

I need 2 sample containers for oil analysis before October.

BrianH

Old customer