S40 (New) General : - Front wheel nearly fell of after power steering service!

davS40 · Sep 15th, 2011, 13:23

Hi all,

Do you need to remove the front wheel to access the power steering pump of an 2005 Volvo S40?
The reason I ask is my front wheel nearly fell off after a service on the PS pump.

The nuts on the front wheel, on the side where the pump is, were all just hand tightened. This was only noticed because I had to change a puncture. The owner of the garage said the wheel was not removed when accessing the pump. He said it can be removed without taking off the front wheel.

Is there any reason you would remove the wheel to access the pump?

Bigmunkynutz · Sep 15th, 2011, 15:40

Not sure of the answer to your question but I would advise you check the thread on all your nuts to see if they look worn or cross threaded an replace if necessary.

davS40 · Sep 15th, 2011, 15:48

Thanks for the reply, BigMonkeyNutz,
The wheel has not given me any trouble since the nuts were tightened properly (a good 2000kms ago at this stage now) but to be double sure, I will check the nuts again just in case.

Daim · Sep 15th, 2011, 17:09

The front right (should be the side) needs to be removed in order to access the pump - OR remove the whole front end of the car... Thrus, depending on either hydraulic or electro hydraulic pump, it will be easier to access the power steering pump, which is on the cambelt end of the engine (driver's side) through the wheel well -> inside section is removeable to access the front of the engine...

davS40 · Sep 15th, 2011, 17:56

Yeah, the pump (and loose wheel) were on the same side (right hand/drivers side).

So, if he didn't remove the whole front of the car, he had no other choice than to remove the right wheel and access the pump through the wheel well?

I'll only be dealing with reputable garages in future, I've had nothing but lies and trouble from this crew.

Daim · Sep 15th, 2011, 19:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by davS40

Yeah, the pump (and loose wheel) were on the same side (right hand/drivers side).

So, if he didn't remove the whole front of the car, he had no other choice than to remove the right wheel and access the pump through the wheel well?

I'll only be dealing with reputable garages in future, I've had nothing but lies and trouble from this crew.

Exactly! Ask him, how he managed to get to the pump. If he says through the engine bay, he is lieing. If he say he took the front off, then it is a very stupid coincidence. Otherwise he removed the wheel and wheel well.

C30 Driver · Sep 15th, 2011, 20:55

Is it allowed on here to name and shame?

Clan · Sep 15th, 2011, 21:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by davS40

Hi all,

Do you need to remove the front wheel to access the power steering pump of an 2005 Volvo S40?
The reason I ask is my front wheel nearly fell off after a service on the PS pump.

The nuts on the front wheel, on the side where the pump is, were all just hand tightened. This was only noticed because I had to change a puncture. The owner of the garage said the wheel was not removed when accessing the pump. He said it can be removed without taking off the front wheel.

Is there any reason you would remove the wheel to access the pump?

No you have to take off the bumper cover to remove or do anything with the pump , taking the wheel off is no advantage , although the pump is mounted just forward of the wheel , some of the retaining nuts and the 2 electrical plugs are at the forward end of the pump, hence the bumper cover has to come off . .
Nowhere in the volvo literature will you find it says remove the wheel ..

davS40 · Sep 16th, 2011, 10:52

Thanks for all the replies,

I'm still confused as to the description I was giving by the garage owner of how the pump was accessed. He said it was taken out without removing the wheel, or the bumper. He said the pump comes out by unbolting the pump and taking it out from underneath the car. He didn't mention removing the bumper at all.

This wouldn't be the first lie I've been told by this crew though.
I was told a new part was going into the car and when I checked it was a second-hand/reconditioned part. It's been no end of torturer with this crowd.

Multiplex · Sep 16th, 2011, 22:36

If the garage is telling you he got the pump out without removing the bumper then he is in the wrong trade, he should have been a gynaecologist!

The "Volvo" way does not state that removal of any road wheel is necessary (as Clan mentioned earlier)

However, to a "Non Volvo" mechanic, on first glance he proably thought - i will remove the wheel, unscrew the wing liner and get to the pump that way. Ahh, i cant get to the EPAS mounting bolts so i will have to remove the bumper.

Sep 15th, 2011, 13:23	#1
davS40 New Member Last Online: Nov 11th, 2011 09:56 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Dublin	Front wheel nearly fell of after power steering service! Hi all, Do you need to remove the front wheel to access the power steering pump of an 2005 Volvo S40? The reason I ask is my front wheel nearly fell off after a service on the PS pump. The nuts on the front wheel, on the side where the pump is, were all just hand tightened. This was only noticed because I had to change a puncture. The owner of the garage said the wheel was not removed when accessing the pump. He said it can be removed without taking off the front wheel. Is there any reason you would remove the wheel to access the pump?

Sep 15th, 2011, 15:40	#2
Bigmunkynutz S40 Owner Last Online: Jun 16th, 2013 22:33 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Warrington	Not sure of the answer to your question but I would advise you check the thread on all your nuts to see if they look worn or cross threaded an replace if necessary. __________________ 05 Plate S40 SE Sport

Sep 15th, 2011, 17:09	#4
Daim Brit in Germany Last Online: Apr 24th, 2024 06:58 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Bremen	The front right (should be the side) needs to be removed in order to access the pump - OR remove the whole front end of the car... Thrus, depending on either hydraulic or electro hydraulic pump, it will be easier to access the power steering pump, which is on the cambelt end of the engine (driver's side) through the wheel well -> inside section is removeable to access the front of the engine... __________________ The Best Nation Is Imagination 2010 V70 (Type 135) D5 (D5244T10) Automatic (TF-80SC)

Sep 15th, 2011, 15:48	#3
davS40 New Member Last Online: Nov 11th, 2011 09:56 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Dublin	Thanks for the reply, BigMonkeyNutz, The wheel has not given me any trouble since the nuts were tightened properly (a good 2000kms ago at this stage now) but to be double sure, I will check the nuts again just in case.

Sep 15th, 2011, 17:56	#5
davS40 New Member Last Online: Nov 11th, 2011 09:56 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Dublin	Yeah, the pump (and loose wheel) were on the same side (right hand/drivers side). So, if he didn't remove the whole front of the car, he had no other choice than to remove the right wheel and access the pump through the wheel well? I'll only be dealing with reputable garages in future, I've had nothing but lies and trouble from this crew.

Sep 15th, 2011, 20:55	#7
C30 Driver Member Last Online: Oct 22nd, 2011 16:18 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Warwick	Is it allowed on here to name and shame?

Sep 16th, 2011, 10:52	#9
davS40 New Member Last Online: Nov 11th, 2011 09:56 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Dublin	Thanks for all the replies, I'm still confused as to the description I was giving by the garage owner of how the pump was accessed. He said it was taken out without removing the wheel, or the bumper. He said the pump comes out by unbolting the pump and taking it out from underneath the car. He didn't mention removing the bumper at all. This wouldn't be the first lie I've been told by this crew though. I was told a new part was going into the car and when I checked it was a second-hand/reconditioned part. It's been no end of torturer with this crowd.

Sep 16th, 2011, 22:36	#10
Multiplex Senior Member Last Online: Jan 29th, 2019 22:42 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: North West	If the garage is telling you he got the pump out without removing the bumper then he is in the wrong trade, he should have been a gynaecologist! The "Volvo" way does not state that removal of any road wheel is necessary (as Clan mentioned earlier) However, to a "Non Volvo" mechanic, on first glance he proably thought - i will remove the wheel, unscrew the wing liner and get to the pump that way. Ahh, i cant get to the EPAS mounting bolts so i will have to remove the bumper.

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