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Old Oct 30th, 2019, 23:24   #1
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Obviously it’s not pointless, perhaps hard for some to see the point others may nod in approval... however I don’t really care!
I’ve been trying to help Jeremy Clarkston since I got the v50.... I think I was sucessfull... he said “you just never hear anyone saying look at that driving like an idiot in the volvo”
Anyway... I got a c30 a couple weeks ago and I like the little thing, sorry I love it. But, like anything there is downsides it simply doesnt have the powah required. (1.6D) 😢
Fortune has smiled though and my wifes looking to get a newer one
to replace her s40 (2.0D) so my intentions are to run it and go nuts
with the c30! 😂 I have access to a complete but accident damaged c30 with T5 engine my thoughts are fit the T5 BUT! I want to make it 4wd as in impreza 4wd
What donor car would I need to look towards for the rear diff set up etc? would a v40 cross country be ideal ( I know floorpans etc but they are the simple bits to fabricate)
I want an all singing sideways absolute bonkers bus... and this would be the ultimate sleeper.
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Old Oct 30th, 2019, 23:37   #2
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Obviously it’s not pointless, perhaps hard for some to see the point others may nod in approval... however I don’t really care!
I’ve been trying to help Jeremy Clarkston since I got the v50.... I think I was sucessfull... he said “you just never hear anyone saying look at that driving like an idiot in the volvo”
Anyway... I got a c30 a couple weeks ago and I like the little thing, sorry I love it. But, like anything there is downsides it simply doesnt have the powah required. (1.6D) 😢
Fortune has smiled though and my wifes looking to get a newer one
to replace her s40 (2.0D) so my intentions are to run it and go nuts
with the c30! 😂 I have access to a complete but accident damaged c30 with T5 engine my thoughts are fit the T5 BUT! I want to make it 4wd as in impreza 4wd
What donor car would I need to look towards for the rear diff set up etc? would a v40 cross country be ideal ( I know floorpans etc but they are the simple bits to fabricate)
I want an all singing sideways absolute bonkers bus... and this would be the ultimate sleeper.
i have 2.0 petrol c30. replaced a 2000 A4 quattro sport with about 250bhp... I wishhhh I had got the t5 despite the mpg... And I miss the quattro, so I say go for it. It's been done, so do a search.

http://www.c30crew.com/mainsite/?page_id=531


I think if I keep the C30 A long time and anything expensive goes pop like the engine and gearbox, I'll be sourcing a T5.
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Old Oct 31st, 2019, 09:21   #3
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Obviously it’s not pointless, perhaps hard for some to see the point others may nod in approval... however I don’t really care!
I’ve been trying to help Jeremy Clarkston since I got the v50.... I think I was sucessfull... he said “you just never hear anyone saying look at that driving like an idiot in the volvo”
Anyway... I got a c30 a couple weeks ago and I like the little thing, sorry I love it. But, like anything there is downsides it simply doesnt have the powah required. (1.6D) 😢
Fortune has smiled though and my wifes looking to get a newer one
to replace her s40 (2.0D) so my intentions are to run it and go nuts
with the c30! 😂 I have access to a complete but accident damaged c30 with T5 engine my thoughts are fit the T5 BUT! I want to make it 4wd as in impreza 4wd
What donor car would I need to look towards for the rear diff set up etc? would a v40 cross country be ideal ( I know floorpans etc but they are the simple bits to fabricate)
I want an all singing sideways absolute bonkers bus... and this would be the ultimate sleeper.
Ambitious. As I understand this is almost an impossible job. The only way to do it to have a T5 and find a V50 AWD and transplant that running gear to the T5. You can't mix manual and geartronic, so both would need to be manual. I'd get onto the US C30crew site and dig around there for more info, one guy has just done an AWD conversion to his T5 C30 IIRC.
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+1 to above, had been done in US but it is a LOT of effort.
V50AWD is probably easiest to swap from, but you need everything including CEM and wiring. Not sure you can use V40CC as donor but maybe Im wrong, V50AWD would be much closer match but will be very hard to find one.
You may look around at Fords aswelll - maybe something from Kuga 2.5L 4x4 can be used? I also know someone with Focus modified to 4x4 using gen3 Haldex and parts from V50AWD so yea, anything is possible, just require skills money and time.

another question is to swap T5 onto your C30... that may be actually harder than adding AWD to T5C30....

btw - bear in mind - even with Gen3 Haldex you will get nowhere close to Impreza or Quattro capabilities. Its Haldex, not Torsen, will never work like fun-driftcar and may dissapoint you if you are expecting scooby's capabilities :/
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+1 to above, had been done in US but it is a LOT of effort.
V50AWD is probably easiest to swap from, but you need everything including CEM and wiring. Not sure you can use V40CC as donor but maybe Im wrong, V50AWD would be much closer match but will be very hard to find one.
You may look around at Fords aswelll - maybe something from Kuga 2.5L 4x4 can be used? I also know someone with Focus modified to 4x4 using gen3 Haldex and parts from V50AWD so yea, anything is possible, just require skills money and time.

another question is to swap T5 onto your C30... that may be actually harder than adding AWD to T5C30....

btw - bear in mind - even with Gen3 Haldex you will get nowhere close to Impreza or Quattro capabilities. Its Haldex, not Torsen, will never work like fun-driftcar and may dissapoint you if you are expecting scooby's capabilities :/
all these comments... the link I supplied lays it all out, with the technical issues and mechanical process. It doesn't give blow by blow details on electronic integration of the haldex gen 3 system but it highlights the issues. Read the link, they successfully completed the project with all OEM parts and basically no fabrication, and no VIDA programming 'bodges' as far as I can tell. IMO, this is the only way you would want to do this, unless your intent is to make a stripped out fully fabbed car for the track.

I think it's an excellent project by why reinvent the wheel, the best approach has been done, cleanly. If you want to do it, follow their path.
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I think it's an excellent project by why reinvent the wheel, the best approach has been done, cleanly. If you want to do it, follow their path.
the link indeed contain valid info but its no harm to provide extra info if someone asks - OP doesnt have T5 C30, as in the link so he is also in different position, swapping T5 engine onto "normal" car is not as straightforward. Also finding donor car in this part of the world is MUCH harder than on other side of the globe where AWD cars even in S40 flavour are just lying around on scrapyards. So maybe lets all provide some more feedback for OP to choose from and decide rather than just "follow this step by step or dont do anything" approach?
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Lots of good starter points here. thank you all.
I’ve been looking at quaiffe boxes, zf boxes etc as well as Kaaz diffs. Expensive is mild 😂
It more than likely (should it cone to fruition in all likelihood it will be caged.. and at that point it’s rude not to get it’s rac logbook or whatever msa call it now &#128514
But thats a year or two away yet!
I have undertook similar projects many years ago I built a mk3 astra gsi using cavy 4x4 gear which had limited sucess and subsequently huge failure... driver wasn’t properly mapped 😂🙈
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Love it. It is a slippery slope... A neighbour of mine had started to convert his mk2 golf (running a mk4 golf 1.8t) to a AWD. I love the thought of the C30 being AWD with a nice tuned T5 engine. It sounds very appealing
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Here's a video of a UK chap converting Focus ST to AWD:

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