D2 running issues - advice wanted - Page 2

John_C · Feb 11th, 2011, 22:16

Good for you, keep on at them, it's obviously not right.

faffi · Feb 17th, 2011, 21:42

Friday night, the car suddenly ran virtually flawless for 20 miles and I commented to my wife that this was pleasant, but unusual. And since then, it seemed fine. Not perfect, but close. If it had been like this from new I probably would never have bothered to complain to the garage.

But this afternoon, issues started to creep back, like the loss of power causing a stumble here and there upon take-off and engine not running smoothly all the time. Then, after stopping for 15 minutes, there was this message in the display; REDUCED ENGINE POWER. I took pictures of it as evidence. Couldn't feel anything different, but I was very happy for the message as it does support my claim that something is not right with the car.

Clan · Feb 17th, 2011, 21:45

That is good news , there should be a code logged now to guide them . I heard of a sticking flap in the intercooler bypass unit recently on one ... ( if you have one on your year of course )

faffi · Feb 17th, 2011, 21:51

Thanks, Clan. It's a 2011, delivered November 5 last year.

Kizzer · Feb 18th, 2011, 09:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by faffi

Thanks, Clan. It's a 2011, delivered November 5 last year.

I wrote about REDUCED ENGINE POWER about 2 issues ago if you have DRIVER mag.
Ill PM you the full article, but basically its to do with the Throttle Position Sensor. A new one under warranty will sort this issue for you

faffi · Feb 18th, 2011, 09:17

Thank you, Kizzer. Clan and/or Guru have mentioned TPS before when I explained these issues under another topic earlier, so this sounds more and more like a possibility. I will PM you.

BTW, this morning the engine fan was blowing like crazy when I parked at work, despite the engine temp showing normal values. Really noisy, and to me it felt like it was blowing a lot of cool air out of the grill

Fan ran for many minutes after parking, and again there was this burnt smell from the left rear wheel arch. Have had the smell before (expect DPF regeneration) but it's the first time I've heard the fan going. It's only a 6 mile drive to work, temp at -2C, so it's a bit strange that it should have overheated.

Clan · Feb 18th, 2011, 18:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzer

I wrote about REDUCED ENGINE POWER about 2 issues ago if you have DRIVER mag.
Ill PM you the full article, but basically its to do with the Throttle Position Sensor. A new one under warranty will sort this issue for you

I assume that is the pedal? bearing in mind a diesel doesnt have a throttle as such ..

faffi · Feb 22nd, 2011, 11:40

Had a one hour meeting with the salesman, the Head of sales and Head of Mechanics that was fairly positive.

1) They will look into the running issues, talk with the importer, possibly replace the pedal/TPS, also suggested driving the car for several days and see if they notice anything
2) The fault code was from the ECM saying there had been trouble during start-up
3) They would clean the aircon since it smells like a 10 year old car when air is resirculated
4) They would look into the wiper/washer not managing to wet the whole windscreen
5) They would see if they could find a cause for the high consumption

They also said that it may end up with them not being able to satisfy me as a customer, that they could not make the car absolutely right. Furthermore, they claimed that erratic running was inevitable with modern diesels, that what I experienced was probably within normal. Strange that I've never sensed the same things with any of the many demo cars I've tried from many brands, though.

The good thing is that listened, were willing to take it seriously and that they wanted to find a solution. Now I just hope that they do

VFL · Feb 22nd, 2011, 16:16

The fuel Consumption as you mentioned WILL increase over time, If you drive 15k - 20k km I think you will notice improvement! (Yes, I have a D2 my self.)

I also see that you compared a little with your 1.6D (16 valves). Remember, D2 (8 valves) is a totally different engine ..

Hope it works out for you.

Kizzer · Feb 22nd, 2011, 16:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clan

I assume that is the pedal? bearing in mind a diesel doesnt have a throttle as such ..

Umm I'm not 100% sure actually, what do you mean by the derv doesnt have a throttle as such? PM me if you want

Feb 17th, 2011, 21:45	#13
Clan Experienced Member Last Online: Yesterday 23:31 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: L/H side	That is good news , there should be a code logged now to guide them . I heard of a sticking flap in the intercooler bypass unit recently on one ... ( if you have one on your year of course ) __________________ My comments are only based on my opinions and vast experience .

Feb 11th, 2011, 22:16	#11
John_C Allons-y! Last Online: Jun 8th, 2020 15:32 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Winchester	Good for you, keep on at them, it's obviously not right.

Feb 17th, 2011, 21:42	#12
faffi Motorcyclist Last Online: May 14th, 2015 22:34 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Stavanger	Friday night, the car suddenly ran virtually flawless for 20 miles and I commented to my wife that this was pleasant, but unusual. And since then, it seemed fine. Not perfect, but close. If it had been like this from new I probably would never have bothered to complain to the garage. But this afternoon, issues started to creep back, like the loss of power causing a stumble here and there upon take-off and engine not running smoothly all the time. Then, after stopping for 15 minutes, there was this message in the display; REDUCED ENGINE POWER. I took pictures of it as evidence. Couldn't feel anything different, but I was very happy for the message as it does support my claim that something is not right with the car.

Feb 17th, 2011, 21:51	#14
faffi Motorcyclist Last Online: May 14th, 2015 22:34 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Stavanger	Thanks, Clan. It's a 2011, delivered November 5 last year.

Feb 18th, 2011, 09:17	#16
faffi Motorcyclist Last Online: May 14th, 2015 22:34 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Stavanger	Thank you, Kizzer. Clan and/or Guru have mentioned TPS before when I explained these issues under another topic earlier, so this sounds more and more like a possibility. I will PM you. BTW, this morning the engine fan was blowing like crazy when I parked at work, despite the engine temp showing normal values. Really noisy, and to me it felt like it was blowing a lot of cool air out of the grill Fan ran for many minutes after parking, and again there was this burnt smell from the left rear wheel arch. Have had the smell before (expect DPF regeneration) but it's the first time I've heard the fan going. It's only a 6 mile drive to work, temp at -2C, so it's a bit strange that it should have overheated.

Feb 22nd, 2011, 11:40	#18
faffi Motorcyclist Last Online: May 14th, 2015 22:34 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Stavanger	Had a one hour meeting with the salesman, the Head of sales and Head of Mechanics that was fairly positive. 1) They will look into the running issues, talk with the importer, possibly replace the pedal/TPS, also suggested driving the car for several days and see if they notice anything 2) The fault code was from the ECM saying there had been trouble during start-up 3) They would clean the aircon since it smells like a 10 year old car when air is resirculated 4) They would look into the wiper/washer not managing to wet the whole windscreen 5) They would see if they could find a cause for the high consumption They also said that it may end up with them not being able to satisfy me as a customer, that they could not make the car absolutely right. Furthermore, they claimed that erratic running was inevitable with modern diesels, that what I experienced was probably within normal. Strange that I've never sensed the same things with any of the many demo cars I've tried from many brands, though. The good thing is that listened, were willing to take it seriously and that they wanted to find a solution. Now I just hope that they do

Feb 22nd, 2011, 16:16	#19
VFL New Member Last Online: Apr 15th, 2015 17:37 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Göteborg	The fuel Consumption as you mentioned WILL increase over time, If you drive 15k - 20k km I think you will notice improvement! (Yes, I have a D2 my self.) I also see that you compared a little with your 1.6D (16 valves). Remember, D2 (8 valves) is a totally different engine .. Hope it works out for you.

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