BMW drivers

[Bob]

I remember listening to a radio chat about BMW drivers. It came from a report listing the worst cars/drivers on the road. It was as follows:

1 - BMW
2 - Mercedes
3 - Volvo.

I think it was the Jeremy Vine show, or something like that. The chairman of one of the UK BMW clubs was interviewed, and he disagreed, as you would expect.

My theory is this. The standard of car control by most drivers is not good and their conduct on the road is equally poor. The BMW, or any other 'class car' has a reputation. The BMW is tagged 'the ultimate driving machine'. Yes it is very, very nice, and I do like it. I am fortunate as some of you know, to be able to legally drive cars on the road at a 'tad above 70mph' on roads classed as National Speed Limit roads.

Put an average driver behind the wheel and that person instantly thinks he/she can do wonders with the car. All that happens is that arrogance goes to the drivers' head and the car is driven in an attrocious manner. The ability of the driver does not come anywhere near the ability of the car. A bad driver is a bad driver in any car; a quality car just enhances the driver's poor skills. I see badly driven cars every day, most are BMWs.


Bob Isaac
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robert.isaac@volvoclub.org.uk

[Ross9]

For once Dave, I'd have to totally agree, you do get phases of certain cars driven by certain people driving badly, but that doesnt condemn all whop fall into the category, or exclude those outside of it from bad driving also. I think a lot of people develop these stereotypes from driving at one time all the time, ie the commute and thats it, thus coming across the same type of people all the time. Spending more time on the road usually throws up more than a few exceptions to any "rule", I managed almost 25,000 miles in the car in a year, never mind at work, which can involve anywhere between 700-1000 miles a week.

I've lately noted the new renault Megane as being a favourite of the sales rep, which is a profession highly populated by bad drivers, but no doubt with many good ones also, prior to this Volkswagon Audi Group TDI's etc were the weapon of choice.

Rice burners (what a bizarre name, I assume you mean anyone with the cheak to own a Japanese car?) , boy racers, etc etc, all wide stereotypes cannot really be applied to road users with any accuracy over a wide cross section of drivers.

Interesting to see the top 3 there Bob, all cars I would associate with being sturdily built, quiet, and confidence enhancing, perhaps it takes a more critical mind to drive these sorts of cars without taking on board the misconception that while the car will aid you in the event it all goes wrong, it doesnt mean you cna just do what you like and get away with it.

That said, take a Mitsubish EVO 6/7/8 , these are cars with all sorts of gadgetry, designed to handle all sorts of abuse thrown at them, Jeremy Clarkson once described it as the car to buy if you wanted to drive like Schumacher/Burns etc but were to lazy to learn how to properly. Now, I don't knwo how many of you see these around a lot, there not overly common in most places, but I've seen a fair few about, and while they are usually to be found being spirited, driving manners, road sense etc etc all seem to be commonplace with the owners, so it kind of shoots in the foot what I said about a car that looks after you. To try and get back to the point I dont find BMW drivers to be especially worse for the sins you mention than marque of similar car. I wont say any car, as you tend not to get Micra's trying to bully people on motorways lol.

[JOHN 850]

Sorry to be a bit thick & also changing subject, but what does "lol" mean at the end of a sentence ? I've seen it a couple of times & cannot think of an abrev.

Cheers,

John.

[Pedro Fandango]

lol = laughing out loud

[tonyflynn1]

Rice burners

http://www.riceboypage.com/

Starting to see a few of these around London, mostly on the south side of the river - these are without exception driven badly

Don't knock the sales rep too hard as they are probably the ones with the least number of accidents per mileage. Same may apply to people who use a vehicle to commute from job to job, i.e.service person.
As for the delivery guy he gets paid a bonus for the number of deliveries that they do in the shortest time therefore the amount of reckless driving we see with white van man. Its the powers to be in the organisation that should be rapped for encouraging dangerous driving. Have you ever tried to deliver over 100 parcels within an 8 hour period around a town.
No I am not a sales rep or a delivery driver although I was a TV tech doing home visits at one time in the distant past. Try completing 14 jobs in a 25 mile square area within a 6 hour period!

[Ross9]

Fortunately I do not work under these circumstances, driving either 7.5 tonne trucks, or SPrinter vans, and soon to be Class 2 HGV's it's Job and finish, speeding is discouraged, tachograph charts are checked on the trucks etc. White Van Man is yet another stereotype, couriers tend to be those who live up to it, whereas other sorts of distribution drivers do not.

[doorman]

Another observation on BMW's why do you think a majority of owners de badge their cars, I can only asume they want other people to think there driving higher powered cars than they can afford. But I'm sure most people know what exhaust pipes and wheels are fitted to various models, and then you get the **** who badges a 1.8 up with a M3 motif, sad. Not knowing what BMW stands for, I have drawn my own conclusion, Bloody Minded W.....r. Don't think I've ever seen a de-badged Volvo though!
Dave
V70 'R' AWD

bavarian motor werkes i think dave, however i do think its a pity a fine marque like bmw gets slated over the behaviour of a very small percentage of its its drivers, i dont really think any one make attracts worse drivers than any other,poor drivers come in all makes and sizes, in my hunble opinion bmw drivers are no worse(or better) than any others, volvos included

>Don't think I've ever seen a de-badged Volvo
>though!
>Dave
>V70 'R' AWD


Ive de-badged my Volvo :)