V60 D6 PHEV Hybrid Limitations

[dbrookdale]

On two occasions in the last week, the engine on my V60 PHEV has started when I began driving even though there was plenty of charge in the battery and I was pulling away slowly.

Pressing "Pure" resulted in a message saying "PURE not available due to temporary hybrid system limitations".

Does anyone know what these temporary system limitations are? On both occasions I had driven the car about 45 minutes previously when it had behaved normally.

[Clan]

Originally Posted by dbrookdale

On two occasions in the last week, the engine on my V60 PHEV has started when I began driving even though there was plenty of charge in the battery and I was pulling away slowly.

Pressing "Pure" resulted in a message saying "PURE not available due to temporary hybrid system limitations".

Does anyone know what these temporary system limitations are? On both occasions I had driven the car about 45 minutes previously when it had behaved normally.

one good thing it isn't a fault .
There are a whole host of things which can cause this , much like the Stop/Start in conventional models don't always work all the time ,
Outside temperature , electrical load , power demand ( going up a slope for example ) heating load , battery temerature , Air Conditioning performance etc etc ... what are you getting mpg on your car? I have seen them with 130 and 140 mpg showing , this indicates you have the right driving conditions for the type of car . I have also seen them showing 48 ish mpg which indicates you have the wrong car for your needs and would be much better off with a normal D5 .

[dbrookdale]

At the moment it shows about 140 mpg. I run it most of the time on the battery - my journey to and from work is 25 miles. On my only long journey since I bought the car in November, I averaged 55 mpg over about 450 miles. It was fully charged when I left home and partly charged when I was away.

[acb5]

This does happen but mot very often. Apparently there is a software update just released for this issue as my garage rang me for it to be booked I to have it done. I am waiting for my next service but it might be worth contacting your garage to see if they can sort it. Also it can be down to DPF regeneration, mine will not go onto electric even though it says it can, over the years I have let it carry on when this happens as it just tries again next time if you force it to cancel. With lots of short bursts from the engine regeneration of the DPF needs to be done, but in over 30K I have never had the engine management light come on.

[Clan]

Originally Posted by dbrookdale

At the moment it shows about 140 mpg. I run it most of the time on the battery - my journey to and from work is 25 miles. On my only long journey since I bought the car in November, I averaged 55 mpg over about 450 miles. It was fully charged when I left home and partly charged when I was away.

The car is working well it seems , It cant do well on long motorway journeys as the battery has little chance to re charge . Hence the " Normal" D5 fuel consumption . Have you tried using the save function about 20 miles before the end of the motorway? That will put charge into the battery to get you through the city to home on the battery ... at some cost in fuel consumption of course .

[Charlie70]

I've had the message pop up a few times. Mainly it was when starting from parked but I assumed it was down to it being cold (10-15 DegC) and me not starting the preconditioning early enough so with only a couple of minutes of preheat while I was walking towards it in the car park. I've gotten into the habit of preheating so this doesn't happen anymore.

However, in one instance, I'd stopped to unload the car for only a few minutes and then the hybrid just wouldn't come back on and wouldn't start until I plugged it in for a recharge at home. The battery had more than 50% but didn't show charge level until it got plugged in so I assumed it's a software bug. Only happened once so I couldn't be bothered to take it in just for that.

I've also noticed that with low fuel level, the preheat is inhibited, so you effectively lose the battery as well.

[Stevec2014]

I have to pull over, turn the ignition off then back on and sometimes this is ok.

It does it to me in all types of conditions.

Any thoughts?

[Charlie70]

I've not had it happen in a while. I'm still of the opinion that it's a software bug when a combination of events trigger it, rather than a material defect.

I drive around in Save mode mainly, or Pure for short journeys. Maybe the bug is with normal Hybrid mode, might explain why I rarely see it now.

The most useful thing to remember is, when you turn off to clear it, you have to wait 20 or seconds or so until you hear a delayed clunk. This is the main battery relay dropping out and clears the fault on restart.

If you just quickly turn the ignition off and on, that relay doesn't drop out, and in my experience, the fault remains.

[hollidog]

Sorry to bump an old thread but I'm encountering the same issue.

I have a '14 D6 on about 86k miles, owned it just over two years. Whenever it gets cold out (now) the hybrid system starts to play up. It's never outright died on me, but I often get "hybrid system malfunction" errors when first setting off, once the indicator on the right of the dash suggests that the engine should be kicking in, it won't, and I have to stop the car to have the ICE kick in. The car will then not run in electric mode until I turn it off and on again.

I do have a chirp from a belt which is starting to fray and I am looking to get replaced by a specialist (West London Volvo don't know their arse from their elbow), but I have read on here about AC pumps giving people issues. I still have cold AC so I don't think it's completely gone, could just be close to giving up?

Has there been any resolution to this? I have checked for fault codes using the Torque OBD app but there are none, is there a better code app for Volvo that I could be using?

[Ulrikas PA]

It's all trial and error.

I occasionally used to get that message, but once in a blue moon these days.

1) I put the regular car battery on C-Tek trickle charge once a month (keep charge up)
2) Before setting off I put it into Pure then press AC to get the green light on, then into gear.
3) Belts: The Aux belt / ISG drive belts and tensioners must be changed at 54k/10yrs.
4) A.C. Compressor:- still a common fault (£2500) See Dutch forum + Google translate!

Mine is in tomorrow - EV side all working fine, but interior fan dead even though AC light on I feared the worst but see other thread a couple of days ago for Clans reply. Will post after Volvo visit.