D5 (D5244T to 2005) 0252 D5 Injectors, Starting Problem What volvo contribution?

[RoyMacDonald]

Originally Posted by sail&fish

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I had a look at the OFT ruling on dealer servicing. This only covers manufacturers warranty; it appears that after market warranty are allowed to specify servicing. I did challenge Volvo again that my car had an independent volvo service in line with the OFT ruling and asked they reconsider. There response was:

"Regards to your query concerning a goodwill gesture towards the replacement of injectors in your vehicle. Volvo Customer Relations are unable to assist in terms of offering a goodwill gesture due to the poor servicing history on your vehicle. Volvo Car UK Ltd cannot guarantee the life expectancy of any component. This is why we provide warranties for our vehicles new and used, to assist our customers in the unlikely event that a part for a newly built vehicle should fail or malfunction. After this point, Volvo may consider a goodwill gesture towards the cost of a repair, depending on such factors as age, mileage, service history and customer loyalty"

So for those considering buying a used car, or opting out of main dealer servicing it may be worth considering what the main dealer thinks of independent specialist servicing.

I tried to google a cheaper place to buy injectors but any search with injectors, D5 and volvo in just brings up complaints about early failure - nuff said.

I think that's a pretty poor response considering how criminally poor Volvo's main dealer's own standard of servicing has been as far as I'm concerned, While the independants I've used have all been superb.

Roy

[chf]

Originally Posted by Clan

Its extremely unlikely that you needed 5 injectors ... When the problem first arose volvo changed all 5 BUT they later brought out single kits to change just the faulty ones .
It is very quick and easy to determine which injector is faulty it has been described by me and others elsewhere here .

I have never seen more than two faulty injectors on one car ...

At least you will be ok for many years to come now .. and this doesnt happen to ALL 2002 D5's by any means just the odd one here and there out of the 100's of 1000's sold ..

Yep ! Injector problem diagnose on my XC90 D5 (53 reg) too and 1 faulty injector only changed today at a cost of £335. Fortunately the car was purchase less than a year ago from a volvo dealer so it was cover by the volvo care plan warranty !

[james barrett]

Originally Posted by sail&fish

Only 5 months a Volvo owner (02/52 V70 D5 82,000 miles) and I have started having winter starting problems. Reading this forum I guessed it may be injectors but took it to a local specialist just in case. He put it on the diagnostic (no fault found) and cleaned the injectors. The problem is still there and it requires a lot of cranking to start- this morning 7 degrees centigrade.

I have contacted the local Volvo dealer and booked it in for next week. He said they have had some problems with 2002 cars and that if it was injectors he would contact Volco UK for a contribution. He also pointed out that the car has not been volvo serviced for the last 2 years; it has been serviced in a volvo specialist.

So my question is what sort of contributuon should I be looking for from Volvo and what sort of noises should I make to them?

thanks in advance

I too have a 2002 V70 D5 with 77,000 miles on the clock which has just required all the fuel injectors to be replaced. Would not start intermittently, and after 3 AA men misdiagnosing it as a)camshaft sensor b) fuel rail, and c) new fuel pump (back one by fuel tank) in 2 rotten weeks, we finally ascertained the real problem, and all in the lead up to Christmas. Nice Christmas present of a bill for £1350.

This is obviously a design fault judging by the number of posts on the matter, and the reports of various vehicles (yes even diesels) catching on fire abroad. Yet Volvo UK are refusing me any compensation at the moment. They recalled all D5 S60s for problems with fuel leaks (SAME ENGINE) yet didn't bother with the V70 D5s. When I asked them why they skirted around the issue by saying that they responded to the complaints they had from dealerships about each specific model, but it begs the question, if it was deemed to be a problem in the S60 D5s, why was it also not deemed a problem in the same engine V70???

We bought the car in 2006 with full Volvo dealership history from a Volvo specialist garage - the car has been serviced just once by them, and they use full Volvo parts. I feel so strongly about this that I'm going to take it to court if necessary to get my money back, so the more ammunition I have the better.

Anyone else who's experienced similar problems/ had money back from Volvo for it please get in touch.

[D5Pilot]

Hello all, first time poster here.
I've had my S60 D5 for just over a year now, it's done 119k miles so it's no spring chicken but I've got the starting problems described in previous posts. Funnily enough only when it's cold! I changed the glow plugs and sure enough one was defective but the problem is still there. When it starts it runs beautifully and it starts with easy start first time...can it still be the injectors? I'm not so sure.
I must add that after all these years driving all sorts it's the best car I've ever had...lovely and smooth and that engine is practically silent and 50mpg on the motorway just magic!

[D5Pilot]

Yes sure enough...two injectors faulty, 4 days of testing, re-newing and £799.02p later the car seems to be running fine. I hope that's the end of it.

[sjfinnerty]

Can anyone recommend where you can purchase the injectors other than Volvo i.e. Bosch distributor?

I have the same problem on my D5 S60 and have been quoted by Volvo €2000.00 to replace all the injectors. I'm sure that if you were to source the injectors and then find a mechanic to replace it should be a lot cheaper? I was told however that Volvo have a special tool to remove the injector, does anyone know if this is the case?

Thanks

[Clan]

Originally Posted by sjfinnerty

Can anyone recommend where you can purchase the injectors other than Volvo i.e. Bosch distributor?

I have the same problem on my D5 S60 and have been quoted by Volvo €2000.00 to replace all the injectors. I'm sure that if you were to source the injectors and then find a mechanic to replace it should be a lot cheaper? I was told however that Volvo have a special tool to remove the injector, does anyone know if this is the case?

Thanks

The injectors are about £220 each and take 1.8 hours to change 5 which i work out at about £1600 inc VAT and labour at £80 an hour

You wont need all 5 injectors , one or two at the most i would say .. Volvo DO sell them singly complete with injector pipe and mounting bracket which MUST be changed with the injector ... Why are they changing all 5 ?

Volvo injectors are graded 1 2 and 3 stamped in a circle on top of your injector and they must be replaced by the same grade unless all 5 are changed then the cars ECU must be adjusted if the grade is changed . Using general BOSCH ungraded ones will cause you grief it has been talked about many times here before .

There are TWO special tools for removing the injectors but only if they are stuck which isnt likely unless the original mounting kit or copper seal washer have been re-used !

[v8disco]

I recently posted that I have changed just one injector for an ungraded Bosch aftermarket injector and it worked fine.

Based on info gleaned from this forum I suspected it would give me some problems and fully expected to have to take the Bosch one out and fit a Volvo grade 2 injector - however, it went in fine, worked perfectly and the starting problem has dissapeared.

I understand all the technical reasons why you "should" stick the with the correct graded Volvo injectors, but I wanted to find out for myself and at the time had a source of Bosch injectors at Bosch dealer prices. Maybe I was just lucky, or maybe the grading isn't quite as critical as we are led to believe.

[Clan]

good for trying , how much are they from BOSCH ?

[palwing]

52 plate V70 D5 auto - 99500 miles..cold start problem this AM for the first time. After about 3 mins of cranking, it started. Outside air temp around 7'C after a chilly night. Heater coil light worked as normal.

Volvo dealer quoted £250/injector plus labour.

So, taken the car to a local Volvo specialist. No fault codes showing, mechanics reckon it's an injector problem. They have quoted me £30/injector to have them checked + 1 hour labour (£52 +vat) to get them out and in. They can get any faulty injectors refurbished for £125 each with 1 yr guarantee. That sounds cheaper than Volvo!

Car is at the garage now. Should know more in the next few days. Will keep you posted.

If this works, I will give people the garage details for those that are interested. They have done work for me before and are very good. Garage is in Norfolk.