What the Heck is Vegan Leather

AndyJudge · Jun 13th, 2019, 16:48

Is anybody else on here participating in the Volvo drivers survey scheme ?

Just had a survey asking me how I'd think about Vegan leather in a future Volvo. Eh What the heck is Vegan Leather - isn't that plastic or Vinyl ?

Had to think hard on how to answer is diplomatically

john.wigley · Jun 13th, 2019, 17:12

Aren't the terms 'Vegan' and 'Leather' mutually exclusive, 'AndyJudge'? My dictionary defines 'Vegan' as "using or containing no animal products", ergo you can't have vegan leather - it has to be a contradiction in terms, surely?

Regards, John.

classicswede · Jun 13th, 2019, 18:22

I'm not sure how I would feel about sitting on the skin of a vegan. Taking organ donation a bit far I think.

I-S · Jun 13th, 2019, 18:22

It is the latest in synthetic leatherette.

Mercedes (Artico), Lexus (Tahara) and Tesla ("Vegan Leather") all use it extensively.

cheshired5 · Jun 13th, 2019, 18:31

Leather is a perceived sign of luxury whilst vegan is very quickly straying from being anything to do with its ethical origins.

It sounds to me like a contrived marketing BS way to say "not leather", instead using vegan as some sort of cushion to soften the blow of a reduction in perceived quality.

If Volvo or any manufacturer were truly concerned with animal welfare, they would end the use of leather without notice or consultation rather than taking a straw poll to see if their sales will be impacted.
If enough people object, the removal of leather won't happen.
Not exactly ethical credentials.

Ian21401 · Jun 13th, 2019, 18:37

Having owned cars in the past with leatherette seats I prefer fabric as one’s skin doesn’t stick to it. ( in my younger days when wearing shorts in the warmer weather, not pleasant.)

id5 · Jun 13th, 2019, 18:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian21401

Having owned cars in the past with leatherette seats I prefer fabric as one’s skin doesn’t stick to it. ( in my younger days when wearing shorts in the warmer weather, not pleasant.)

I remember that stuff, it was horrific to sit on and had what seemed the temperature of a furnace when the sun even shown weakly as it is apt to do in the UK.

phil1968 · Jun 13th, 2019, 19:22

An oxymoron.

rudi dudi · Jun 13th, 2019, 20:03

Vegan leather =Plastic

green van man · Jun 13th, 2019, 20:44

Even volvos real leather seats are only real leather on the faces, all the rest are vinal/ fake leather.

Cloth seats for me.
It cost volvo a car when I was told by 2 dealers I could not down spec leather to cloth despite being able to up spec from cloth to leather. At the the time the spec came to a shade over 33k and I could not have the seats I wanted. I walked and baught second hand with cloth seats saving 20k.

As for vegan leather, a case of miss representation of goods, if it's leather it cannot be vegan and if it's vegan it cannot be leather.

Paul.

Jun 13th, 2019, 16:48	#1
AndyJudge Premier Member Last Online: Feb 18th, 2024 17:40 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Hebburn	What the Heck is Vegan Leather Is anybody else on here participating in the Volvo drivers survey scheme ? Just had a survey asking me how I'd think about Vegan leather in a future Volvo. Eh What the heck is Vegan Leather - isn't that plastic or Vinyl ? Had to think hard on how to answer is diplomatically __________________ Current 2015 XC60 D5 AWD - Caspian Blue Previous 2012 XC60 D5 AWD - Seashell Metallic Previous 2005 S60 D5 Geartronic - Gunmetal Previous 2001 C70 T5 GT Auto Convertible - Saffron Previous 1999 S40 XS - Silver

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john.wigley VOC Member since 1986 Last Online: Yesterday 23:53 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Leicestershire	Aren't the terms 'Vegan' and 'Leather' mutually exclusive, 'AndyJudge'? My dictionary defines 'Vegan' as "using or containing no animal products", ergo you can't have vegan leather - it has to be a contradiction in terms, surely? Regards, John. __________________ Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana .....

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classicswede Trader Volvo in my veins Last Online: Yesterday 18:07 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Anglesey	I'm not sure how I would feel about sitting on the skin of a vegan. Taking organ donation a bit far I think. __________________ http://www.classicswede.org www.classicswede.co.uk

Jun 13th, 2019, 18:22	#4
I-S Premier Member Last Online: Jul 22nd, 2021 23:43 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Huddersfield	It is the latest in synthetic leatherette. Mercedes (Artico), Lexus (Tahara) and Tesla ("Vegan Leather") all use it extensively. __________________ Our Car 2011 V70 D5 Geartronic Polestar - 38.6mpg over 45524 miles Replaced by

Jun 13th, 2019, 18:31	#5
cheshired5 Premier Member Last Online: Dec 26th, 2021 13:42 Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Crewe	Leather is a perceived sign of luxury whilst vegan is very quickly straying from being anything to do with its ethical origins. It sounds to me like a contrived marketing BS way to say "not leather", instead using vegan as some sort of cushion to soften the blow of a reduction in perceived quality. If Volvo or any manufacturer were truly concerned with animal welfare, they would end the use of leather without notice or consultation rather than taking a straw poll to see if their sales will be impacted. If enough people object, the removal of leather won't happen. Not exactly ethical credentials. __________________ 2002 S60 SE D5 Manual 209000 miles

Jun 13th, 2019, 18:37	#6
Ian21401 Premier Member Last Online: Feb 11th, 2023 20:32 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Blyth, Northumberland	Prefer fabric. Having owned cars in the past with leatherette seats I prefer fabric as one’s skin doesn’t stick to it. ( in my younger days when wearing shorts in the warmer weather, not pleasant.)

Jun 13th, 2019, 19:22	#8
phil1968 Master Member Last Online: Jul 27th, 2020 23:19 Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Chatham	An oxymoron. __________________ 2008 C70 D5 SE Lux Nav Geartronic Last edited by phil1968; Jun 13th, 2019 at 19:24.

Jun 13th, 2019, 20:03	#9
rudi dudi DPF free.FCUK Greta he he Last Online: Mar 28th, 2024 13:38 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bristol	Vegan leather =Plastic

Jun 13th, 2019, 20:44	#10
green van man Premier Member Last Online: Apr 11th, 2024 09:21 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Ffos y Ffin	Even volvos real leather seats are only real leather on the faces, all the rest are vinal/ fake leather. Cloth seats for me. It cost volvo a car when I was told by 2 dealers I could not down spec leather to cloth despite being able to up spec from cloth to leather. At the the time the spec came to a shade over 33k and I could not have the seats I wanted. I walked and baught second hand with cloth seats saving 20k. As for vegan leather, a case of miss representation of goods, if it's leather it cannot be vegan and if it's vegan it cannot be leather. Paul.

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