General: - Gummi Pflege - Advice & Info. sought

FredGraham · Jun 26th, 2019, 10:23

Hi All,
I have seen numerous posts about this product but none that will specifically answer my question. Right then, the seal that runs along the top of the door/bottom of the window glass that is supposed to stop water filling up your door. Well mine, on my passenger door doesn't. I own a MY 2006 C70 and what I would like to know is how do I correct this, is the rubber too old now and the rubber treatment stick, will the product help reform the seal. One of the previous owners drilled a drain hole in the door and I would like to correct this. How do I reshape the seal so it pushes against the glass, will Gummi Pflege do this or after treatment will I need to apply a certain amount of pressure to push the seal back into shape. Al answers & thoughts appreciated, how the product works etc. I know it will recondition the rubber, but will it reshape it?
Thanks in advance.
Fred

Ian21401 · Jun 26th, 2019, 10:30

Sorry that I cannot help regarding that product. I have never heard of it. BUT, last time I had this problem was decades ago with a Triumph Herald. I was able to obtain new seals and fitted them.

tofufi · Jun 26th, 2019, 10:41

Certainly in every car I've owned, those seals are only meant to be water resistant. The doors should have drain holes in the bottom to allow small amounts of rain water out...

ITSv40 · Jun 26th, 2019, 10:48

Gummi Pfledge is good for maintaining flexible rubber seals, but will not reform an out of shape seal. You need new seals. As others have said the door seal is only supposed to reduce the amount of water ingress, not prevent it completely.

FredGraham · Jun 26th, 2019, 11:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by tofufi

Certainly in every car I've owned, those seals are only meant to be water resistant. The doors should have drain holes in the bottom to allow small amounts of rain water out...

I'm not talking small amounts, possibly pints. It can take over a minute for the flow of water to become a drip and longer to stop completely.

FredGraham · Jun 26th, 2019, 11:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian21401

Sorry that I cannot help regarding that product. I have never heard of it. BUT, last time I had this problem was decades ago with a Triumph Herald. I was able to obtain new seals and fitted them.

How easy is it to change this seal on a C70?

zapcity1 · Jun 26th, 2019, 11:15

+1 on ITSv40's recommendation of new seals. Gummi won't reshape just protect/condition.

Seals available from Volvo, but you could also get from a breaker. C70 roof seals are life changingly expensive, but door/window seals maybe more reasonable!!

I use Gummi on mine for door seals etc., then slugslime or Dupont Krytox GPL 105 on the roof seals.

Shouldn't be too difficult to change but never tried! Shown on attached drawing. No. 7 probably. www.volvopartswebstore.com has good exploded views you can access.

Parts available from FRF Swansea quoting C3 code and get a good discount. Details in Trader's Offers & Discounts section. Will also ensure you get correct part.

tofufi · Jun 26th, 2019, 11:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by FredGraham

I'm not talking small amounts, possibly pints. It can take over a minute for the flow of water to become a drip and longer to stop completely.

Do they only begin to drain once you open the door?

SwissXC90 · Jun 26th, 2019, 11:40

The doors have multiple drain holes ex factory

The window glass seal is never designed to be 100% waterproof

However a new rubber seal will always help if the old one has deteriorated.

Gummi Pflege is basically silicon. It helps keep rubber soft and pliant. It is excellent to help prevent doors freezing closed in Winter.

FredGraham · Jun 26th, 2019, 11:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by tofufi

Do they only begin to drain once you open the door?

No, it's not so obvious but any large amount of water in the door starts to pour out, and deflect off the sill as I reverse off the drive.

Jun 26th, 2019, 10:23	#1
FredGraham Member Last Online: Jun 23rd, 2022 10:44 Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Hemel Hempstead	Gummi Pflege - Advice & Info. sought Hi All, I have seen numerous posts about this product but none that will specifically answer my question. Right then, the seal that runs along the top of the door/bottom of the window glass that is supposed to stop water filling up your door. Well mine, on my passenger door doesn't. I own a MY 2006 C70 and what I would like to know is how do I correct this, is the rubber too old now and the rubber treatment stick, will the product help reform the seal. One of the previous owners drilled a drain hole in the door and I would like to correct this. How do I reshape the seal so it pushes against the glass, will Gummi Pflege do this or after treatment will I need to apply a certain amount of pressure to push the seal back into shape. Al answers & thoughts appreciated, how the product works etc. I know it will recondition the rubber, but will it reshape it? Thanks in advance. Fred

Jun 26th, 2019, 10:48	#4
ITSv40 VOC Member Last Online: Yesterday 21:07 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Northampton	Gummi Pfledge is good for maintaining flexible rubber seals, but will not reform an out of shape seal. You need new seals. As others have said the door seal is only supposed to reduce the amount of water ingress, not prevent it completely. __________________ 2001 V40 2.0lt Sport Lux - Daily Driver. 178k miles. 2003 C70 2.4 GT Convertible - Garage Queen. 67k miles. http://www.neptuno6benagil.com

Jun 26th, 2019, 11:15	#7
zapcity1 Senior Member Last Online: Mar 12th, 2024 23:09 Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Ipswich	+1 on ITSv40's recommendation of new seals. Gummi won't reshape just protect/condition. Seals available from Volvo, but you could also get from a breaker. C70 roof seals are life changingly expensive, but door/window seals maybe more reasonable!! I use Gummi on mine for door seals etc., then slugslime or Dupont Krytox GPL 105 on the roof seals. Shouldn't be too difficult to change but never tried! Shown on attached drawing. No. 7 probably. www.volvopartswebstore.com has good exploded views you can access. Parts available from FRF Swansea quoting C3 code and get a good discount. Details in Trader's Offers & Discounts section. Will also ensure you get correct part. __________________ Now: - MY12 XC60 SE Lux Premium D3 Geartonic AWD, MY09 XC70 D5 SE Lux Geartronic AWD, MY08 C70 SE Lux D5 Geartronic & 1994 480GT Previously: - MY08 V50 2.0D SE Lux, MY08 S40 1.8 SE, MY10 C70 SE Lux 2.0D Powershift, & ’99 V40 2.0T SE Lux Last edited by zapcity1; Jun 26th, 2019 at 11:41.

Jun 26th, 2019, 11:40	#9
SwissXC90 Premier Member Last Online: Mar 20th, 2024 18:26 Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Cross Country	The doors have multiple drain holes ex factory The window glass seal is never designed to be 100% waterproof However a new rubber seal will always help if the old one has deteriorated. Gummi Pflege is basically silicon. It helps keep rubber soft and pliant. It is excellent to help prevent doors freezing closed in Winter. __________________ XC90 R-Design MY2009, Black Sapphire Metallic. HP-Sound, RSE, Nav, Tel, ParkingCam, BLIS, ParkingHeater, RestHeat, Removable Towbar, Summer: CRATUS 20x8 on Pirelli Scorpion Zeros 255/45, Winter: NEPTUNE 17x7 on Continental WinterContact 4x4 235/65.

Jun 26th, 2019, 10:30	#2
Ian21401 Premier Member Last Online: Feb 11th, 2023 20:32 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Blyth, Northumberland	Sorry that I cannot help regarding that product. I have never heard of it. BUT, last time I had this problem was decades ago with a Triumph Herald. I was able to obtain new seals and fitted them.

Jun 26th, 2019, 10:41	#3
tofufi Premier Member Last Online: Yesterday 12:33 Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Bristol	Certainly in every car I've owned, those seals are only meant to be water resistant. The doors should have drain holes in the bottom to allow small amounts of rain water out...

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