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Old Sep 17th, 2020, 09:59   #1
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The price of everything appears to be going up - and I mean everything. "Classic" cars (even those that are not remotely "classic") are listed at ridiculous prices that they probably never realise, however, I have just seen this on eBay and I have to say it's a total and utter pi**-take....

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1993-Volv...kAAOSwyG1fWhWk

The 240 is undoubtedly a super car - I've had three and wish I'd kept at least two of them, however, this car just isn't worth this stupid price. If you list a car at this price you deserve to take the consequent flak for it....joker!
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Just because cars are offered at what we may consider to be unrealistic prices does not mean that they will sell for that same figure, Roderick. I agree with those on the forum who believe that we may well see cars and other 'luxury' items (e.g. watches) sold off cheaply as money becomes tight and people need to pay the mortgage and put food on the table. An expensive 'toy' is of little value in such circumstances.

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Just because cars are offered at what we may consider to be unrealistic prices does not mean that they will sell for that same figure, Roderick. I agree with those on the forum who believe that we may well see cars and other 'luxury' items (e.g. watches) sold off cheaply as money becomes tight and people need to pay the mortgage and put food on the table. An expensive 'toy' is of little value in such circumstances.

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We have discussed this topic in the past John - and I agree really strongly.

I agree with Roderick also: this is a £3000 car all day long, someone is just flying a kite (but I suppose someone might pay the price?).

I'll be keeping cash in the bank (metaphorically) at the mo - this bubble will burst soon enough :-(

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Default My reply has turned into a bit of a rant ..sorry

The reason the prices are going up is because they are getting rarer cars now and dealers are beginning to take the **** with prices because of rarity.

this is mainly due to people breaking up cars especially older ones for a quick buck.
but these people don't realise there will be more parts to sell than there are cars to need the parts so eventually of to the dump with a lot of good useable parts all because of greed.

I'm all for a good reasonable price that keeps cars in circulation and out of the hands of breakers /banger boys it's better to keep the old ones going on the road or sold to somebody for a good restoration job so they can be enjoyed for the future, not just a few quid in parts because people cant be bothered to fix em.

How many older 244 or 245 cars have been scrapped for a quick buck or because the owner was too greedy or lazy??

3 or 4 grand seems reasonable for the torslander but not 8 just yet

you don't see people scrapping fords of the same era any more because they have a good market value and as a consequence a really good new parts supply, there is a good supply for parts for 200 and 100 seres cars but it seems old Volvo owners are just too tight to pay the prices which in fairness are comparable to other classic car parts prices.

I see it all the time " I want ££££££for it (over priced) but if I don't get it I will break it up" not sell it to someone for a lower price so they can keep it going/ restore it........Just Greedy if you ask me

I am in need of parts for my volvos (1971 164, 1975 245, 178 245, I saved the 1978 car from the crusher in a scrap yard in wales and it had some rare genuine Volvo accessories fitted to it too that would have been lost) but I always try to use new parts first this keeps new parts in demand and therefore not extortionate prices. you just need to shop around the web there's about 6 or 7 websites I do price checking on.

So don't break it up for parts keep it going and the second hand prices will steadily climb as it does with all classics and not jump because some greedy dealer is chancing his arm because of rarity.

if you do need the money sell the car to someone whole who will keep it going or restore it and thus keeping the values reasonable enough to afford but high enough to be a viable classic to keep on the road or restore it.

Rant over

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That will never sell in a month of Sundays ! The 740 that was up a while ago at way over 5k is now down to 2k odd

Trying their luck to see if someone daft enough to pay it comes along
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This one is equally daft:

http://https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/293712119590

I can think of no reason for this justifying £9000.
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That will never sell in a month of Sundays ! The 740 that was up a while ago at way over 5k is now down to 2k odd

Trying their luck to see if someone daft enough to pay it comes along
This dealer seems to be asking ridiculous prices for all his vehicles: £80000 for a 1988 Africa Twin!
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That silver Torslanda was on ebay recently for about £4k, maybe a little more (£4750 rings a bell) by a private seller. Seems a dodgy dealer has bought it and wound the mileage back to 125k and hiked the price up.
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That silver Torslanda was on ebay recently for about £4k, maybe a little more (£4750 rings a bell) by a private seller. Seems a dodgy dealer has bought it and wound the mileage back to 125k and hiked the price up.
Interesting. There seems some confusion about the mileage in the ad, one place just shy of 200,000, another much less.



Let's hope the dealer gets his fingers burned - although I doubt he has bought the car, probably selling it on a 50% commission.

... everyone seems to think their oldish Volvo is worth much more than it is:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/volvo-244...wAAOSwobJfV-Lx

...about the same miles as the RB but 3 times the price!

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Interesting. There seems some confusion about the mileage in the ad, one place just shy of 200,000, another much less.



Let's hope the dealer gets his fingers burned - although I doubt he has bought the car, probably selling it on a 50% commission.

... everyone seems to think their oldish Volvo is worth much more than it is:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/volvo-244...wAAOSwobJfV-Lx

...about the same miles as the RB but 3 times the price!
I'm sure the mileage from the private seller was near 200k Alan, i doubt the dealer is selling it on commission though.

As for the one you just linked to "It’s straight, original with the original radio."

"I have a list of new parts: new cambelt, water pump (Volvo) and tensioner. 4 new discs callipers and pads, new brake slave cylinder. 4 new uprated 60mm lowering springs, new adjustable panhard bar, new top tint windscreen, new rear shock absorbers, viscous fan, new fan belts, new points, oil filter, oil change. New 18 x 8.5 alloys with new tyres, new wheel nuts and locks."

New Volvo water pump? Best get that changed pronto!

New slave cylinder? In a disc all round system?

Uprated lowering springs? Adjustable Panhard Rod? 18" x 8.5" alloys?

Not exactly original!

It's being sold as something that it's clearly not. If it was listed as lightly retro-modded, that would be different.
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