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Old Feb 10th, 2013, 20:22   #1
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hi all bit of a lurker,i have the chance to buy a very tidy 164 straight 6...
i love the shape,but was wondering is there an engine swop kit as such...for sat fitting the newer 5 cylinder 20v turbo or something else...cant seem to find many modified ones...there must be some around...thanks...
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The obvious is a 6 cylinder 960 engine much lighter and more powerful ... but the original 164 engine is so silky smooth .. once you have the gearbox you could then fit any volvo alloy 4 , 5 or 6 cylinder engine from the 1990's
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Reason there are few modified ones is that the B30 is an excellent and powerful engine. With a few mods it can be made more so.
Don't exchange engines you will only devalue the car and achieve nothing.
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difficult one , i assumed there was some problem with the original engine , its not that powerful at 145 bhp and going to one extreme , a volvo T4 4 cylinder turbo engine weighs half as much and can have nearly double the power with reasonable economy .
On the other hand keep the original all cast iron engine , The marine version with 3 stromberg carbs is 175 bhp ( same as the 164E injection version ) Or you could fit 3 x 45 dcoe weber carbs and tubular exhaust ...If you can find a 6 cylinder performance camshaft and a few minor head mods you could make over 200 bhp .( same power as the 960 6 cylinder ) however expect drastic fuel consumption!
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has anyone heard of a 5 pot 20v turbo engine being fitted...
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Better to buy a Subaru Impreza.....
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Reason there are few modified ones is that the B30 is an excellent and powerful engine. With a few mods it can be made more so.
Don't exchange engines you will only devalue the car and achieve nothing.
Hi ,
I agree . keep the engine and mod it .

and good luck


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I'm am just about to begin. I have a 144 auto and its thirsty and sluggish, so was thinking of an engine swap too. I was going down the obvious route of Zetec and Type 9 box to give the old girl a bit of get up and go. Going for lowered stance too, although struggling to find alloys.

Anyway, await with interest while I get the welding torch out. Anyone reading lower edge rear wing panels are going cheap on ebay at moment from a place in Barnsley.
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Sorry- but I just can't understand why you would want to do that to an old Volvo. Why waste a lot of time and money trying to turn a rather sedate 40yr old car into a modern performance vehicle. I just think you are missing the whole point of owning a classic car. If you need a high performance car go and buy one, there are plenty of very affordable Celicas, Skylines, Imprezas about at the moment.
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I'm am just about to begin. I have a 144 auto and its thirsty and sluggish, so was thinking of an engine swap too. I was going down the obvious route of Zetec and Type 9 box to give the old girl a bit of get up and go. Going for lowered stance too, although struggling to find alloys.

Anyway, await with interest while I get the welding torch out. Anyone reading lower edge rear wing panels are going cheap on ebay at moment from a place in Barnsley.
arghh! why not convert to B20E which isnt sluggish .
OR fit a modern volvo T5 engine or even a normal 2.4 5 cylinder and M90 gearbox :-)
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