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New Diesel on the way?

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Old Oct 16th, 2018, 19:32   #1
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Hi all,

I’m sure everyone’s familiar that after the S60 launched there wouldn’t be a new car launched with a Diesel engine, but I don’t think this means the end of the line for new Volvo diesel units. I heard from a friend who was at an engineering conference that Volvo is soon to announce updated Diesel units before 2018 is out...anyone else heard anything?

Think of it as version 2.0 of the current 2L units. Better performance,sound and economy.

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Maybe, hopefully, something along the line of electrification of existing diesels?.. A D6 featuring a 24V-mild hybrid D5?

Given that (in Europe..) Volvo sales are still over 70% diesels- this would be a no-brainer IMO..
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Possibly something along the lines of VAG's new 'mild hybrid' system.
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Or Merc's 300de, a 48V system:

https://mercedesblog.com/306-hp-merc...el-advantages/
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Going to stick my neck out and say no:- Although I had read somewhere that Volvo were not investing any more money into deisal technology. so unless they are using original technology, but I got the impression they were phasing them out.
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big heavy cars are just too thirsty in petrol guise
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big heavy cars are just too thirsty in petrol guise
Which is why they are going hybrid
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I would be amazed if a new diesel was to appear from Volvo. The market for these are shrinking world wide and diesel is becoming tainted as the "fuel of satan".
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I would be amazed if a new diesel was to appear from Volvo. The market for these are shrinking world wide and diesel is becoming tainted as the "fuel of satan".
Shrinking is not zero. Large chunk of Volvo customer base still has diesel as the best option (I am not one of them) And if you want to sell them you have to bring new tech. My bet is volvo marketing tells volvo PR to come up with a story to let the sell some diesel. Didn’t some British kid come up with a way to cut low speed emissions on diesel to nearly nothing? They were looking to license that.

A lot will depend on the narrative around diesel. Don’t be mistaken it was deliberately stoked. It was ingenious as the side that could give a good Defense was found to be cheats and had no credibility. I am not saying bad things didn’t happen but the reaction was like machine gunning someone for stepping on your toe - car manufacturers and most corporations cheat and get caught all the time - here there was something more at play hence the big scandal. Now if it was just to reduce the extreme competitiveness of the Germans against the Americans, then hopefully it’s done - continued development of diesels by them indicates it might be this. Another explanation could be to push the electric - not a natural competitor at all - but you free up enough customers some will buy electric. If the latter then negative narrative around diesels may carry on.
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Now if it was just to reduce the extreme competitiveness of the Germans against the Americans, then hopefully it’s done - continued development of diesels by them indicates it might be this. Another explanation could be to push the electric - not a natural competitor at all - but you free up enough customers some will buy electric. If the latter then negative narrative around diesels may carry on.
Well said. If I had to put my money on it- I'd say it's the former. And as you said- continued development of diesels is the proof..
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