volvo 2.4t estate

robs 440 · Mar 7th, 2009, 10:26

hi folks, ive just bought a fantastic v70 2.4T estate with gearbox problems. i personally think ill end up putting another autobox in this, but need your advice on this one. its stuck in limp mode, goes into 3rd gear, and engine light on dash is on. it will pull away in 1st and will not change up or down. if you put it in D it will pull away in 3rd. last owner tried changing the oil but to no avail. im going to get it put on a dieasnostic at my local garage next week just to get some idea. the car is 2001. any ideas rob.

Chris_Rogers · Mar 7th, 2009, 10:49

For a 2001 car you would be better posting / searching the 2000> forum

This will help you with the diagnoistics:

http://www.ppc-diagnostic.com/

Cost here:

http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showth...&highlight=ppc

Cheaper than going to the dealers.

The 5 speed box needs JWS 3309 fluid, what did you put in?

From your description of the problem a new box may well be required.

TheJoyOfSix · Mar 7th, 2009, 11:13

I've just moved this into correct section so hopefully it will get more views.

It sounds like the gearbox is fine, but the software is faulty. It will probably need the Trans Control Module reflashing.

robs 440 · Mar 7th, 2009, 11:22

thanks joy of six, i only got the car yesterday, with this problem, will start off in 1st if you put it into, but if you put it into d then only 3rd gear, dosent change up or down. will they be able to see this problem with the diagnostics?? what part are you meaning? is it a ecu, thanks rob.

TheJoyOfSix · Mar 7th, 2009, 11:30

If it starts in 1st when the lever is moved to 1st, and will change into all gears by the lever yet only has 3rd when put into drive then it's a software fault. The gearchanging in 'D' is controlled electronically by the gearbox ECU (called the Transmission Control Module or TCM), whereas positions 1,2,3,4 (and 5 if it's got one) control the box via a cable.

Either the TCM has fried or lost its program or the car has lost contact with the TCM. If all the gears are physically still there the actual gearbox is fine, just the control side is faulty.

robs 440 · Mar 7th, 2009, 11:48

thanks, only 1st and drive work, if you put it in 3rd or 4th it dosent change up or down?? if you put it in 1st, then put it into drive theres a clonk, then it goes to limp mode, so it only seems to run in 1st or limp mode 3rd. reverse is ok.??

robs 440 · Mar 7th, 2009, 12:20

right, lastest update, just taken it out from cold, dash comes up with transmission service, goes into drive, changes up a gear with a slight clonk then into 3rd then goes into limp mode. stop the car, same thing happens?? so its changing throgh the gears but rough?

Chris_Rogers · Mar 7th, 2009, 18:00

Which gear box is it 4 or 5 speed?

Suggest you buy the diagnostic unit I mentioned above to read the fault codes.

Check with the previous owner what fluid was put in.

robs 440 · Mar 8th, 2009, 10:19

hi chris, think this is the 4 speed box. its a 55-50sn box. seems to me that it changes for a while, the goes into limp mode. previous owner bought the oil from volvo as recomended, spent over £100 on oil?? apart from the gearbox its superb, full history, stamped, new tyres, long mot and tax. engine is so quiet. fantasticly clean. £1000. bargain. i should be able to pick a secondhand box up for £300, eventually.

grainqey · Mar 8th, 2009, 12:01

urm a problem on the Vx omega autoboxes is the selector switch being mucky/fubar'd
might be worth you checking that (it'll probably be on one side of the gearbox) possibly on a ledge kind of thing on the side of the box so lots of muck can collect! lol

Mar 7th, 2009, 10:26	#1
robs 440 Member Last Online: Jul 4th, 2009 10:42 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: south east	volvo 2.4t estate hi folks, ive just bought a fantastic v70 2.4T estate with gearbox problems. i personally think ill end up putting another autobox in this, but need your advice on this one. its stuck in limp mode, goes into 3rd gear, and engine light on dash is on. it will pull away in 1st and will not change up or down. if you put it in D it will pull away in 3rd. last owner tried changing the oil but to no avail. im going to get it put on a dieasnostic at my local garage next week just to get some idea. the car is 2001. any ideas rob.

Mar 7th, 2009, 11:13	#3
TheJoyOfSix N.F.I Last Online: Oct 28th, 2023 23:33 Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Belper View Photos By: TheJoyOfSix	I've just moved this into correct section so hopefully it will get more views. It sounds like the gearbox is fine, but the software is faulty. It will probably need the Trans Control Module reflashing. __________________

Mar 7th, 2009, 11:30	#5
TheJoyOfSix N.F.I Last Online: Oct 28th, 2023 23:33 Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Belper View Photos By: TheJoyOfSix	If it starts in 1st when the lever is moved to 1st, and will change into all gears by the lever yet only has 3rd when put into drive then it's a software fault. The gearchanging in 'D' is controlled electronically by the gearbox ECU (called the Transmission Control Module or TCM), whereas positions 1,2,3,4 (and 5 if it's got one) control the box via a cable. Either the TCM has fried or lost its program or the car has lost contact with the TCM. If all the gears are physically still there the actual gearbox is fine, just the control side is faulty. __________________

Mar 7th, 2009, 10:49	#2
Chris_Rogers VOC Member Last Online: Apr 10th, 2017 16:55 Join Date: Jan 1970 Location: South Kent Coast	For a 2001 car you would be better posting / searching the 2000> forum This will help you with the diagnoistics: http://www.ppc-diagnostic.com/ Cost here: http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showth...&highlight=ppc Cheaper than going to the dealers. The 5 speed box needs JWS 3309 fluid, what did you put in? From your description of the problem a new box may well be required.

Mar 7th, 2009, 11:22	#4
robs 440 Member Last Online: Jul 4th, 2009 10:42 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: south east	thanks joy of six, i only got the car yesterday, with this problem, will start off in 1st if you put it into, but if you put it into d then only 3rd gear, dosent change up or down. will they be able to see this problem with the diagnostics?? what part are you meaning? is it a ecu, thanks rob.

Mar 7th, 2009, 11:48	#6
robs 440 Member Last Online: Jul 4th, 2009 10:42 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: south east	thanks, only 1st and drive work, if you put it in 3rd or 4th it dosent change up or down?? if you put it in 1st, then put it into drive theres a clonk, then it goes to limp mode, so it only seems to run in 1st or limp mode 3rd. reverse is ok.??

Mar 7th, 2009, 12:20	#7
robs 440 Member Last Online: Jul 4th, 2009 10:42 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: south east	right, lastest update, just taken it out from cold, dash comes up with transmission service, goes into drive, changes up a gear with a slight clonk then into 3rd then goes into limp mode. stop the car, same thing happens?? so its changing throgh the gears but rough?

Mar 7th, 2009, 18:00	#8
Chris_Rogers VOC Member Last Online: Apr 10th, 2017 16:55 Join Date: Jan 1970 Location: South Kent Coast	Which gear box is it 4 or 5 speed? Suggest you buy the diagnostic unit I mentioned above to read the fault codes. Check with the previous owner what fluid was put in.

Mar 8th, 2009, 10:19	#9
robs 440 Member Last Online: Jul 4th, 2009 10:42 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: south east	hi chris, think this is the 4 speed box. its a 55-50sn box. seems to me that it changes for a while, the goes into limp mode. previous owner bought the oil from volvo as recomended, spent over £100 on oil?? apart from the gearbox its superb, full history, stamped, new tyres, long mot and tax. engine is so quiet. fantasticly clean. £1000. bargain. i should be able to pick a secondhand box up for £300, eventually.

Mar 8th, 2009, 12:01	#10
grainqey Master Member Last Online: Feb 23rd, 2021 00:40 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: rotherham	urm a problem on the Vx omega autoboxes is the selector switch being mucky/fubar'd might be worth you checking that (it'll probably be on one side of the gearbox) possibly on a ledge kind of thing on the side of the box so lots of muck can collect! lol

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