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Old Nov 4th, 2019, 20:57   #321
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A little update on the MOT this year, the tester entered 1992 instead of 1988 in the emissions analyser, so used the wrong program - easily done I suppose. The good news is that the Hearse is back, £50 of welding the exhaust up and an MOT later and there is another years ticket for sub £100, lovely! Interesting that we've only done 3054 miles in it in the last year.

The car is unsurprisingly quieter now that the extension pipe is sealed properly, and the over-axle pipe was also leaking exhaust gases enough to be an MOT fail apparently. More of a bonus is how much smoother and more responsive the engine is at low revs, idle and light throttle.

These are the 'failed' emissions before the exhaust welding, not much different from last years really and post-welding are likely to be improved.



I mentioned about thinking of engine swaps, and the owner was quite interested in what we may plan to do (seemed genuine rather than commercial 'interest') - they are part classic car specialists and seem to like the Hearse, so for techical stuff I may use them for parts of the project.
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A little update on the MOT this year, the tester entered 1992 instead of 1988 in the emissions analyser, so used the wrong program - easily done I suppose. The good news is that the Hearse is back, £50 of welding the exhaust up and an MOT later and there is another years ticket for sub £100, lovely! Interesting that we've only done 3054 miles in it in the last year.

The car is unsurprisingly quieter now that the extension pipe is sealed properly, and the over-axle pipe was also leaking exhaust gases enough to be an MOT fail apparently. More of a bonus is how much smoother and more responsive the engine is at low revs, idle and light throttle.

These are the 'failed' emissions before the exhaust welding, not much different from last years really and post-welding are likely to be improved.



I mentioned about thinking of engine swaps, and the owner was quite interested in what we may plan to do (seemed genuine rather than commercial 'interest') - they are part classic car specialists and seem to like the Hearse, so for techical stuff I may use them for parts of the project.
I hope they didn't charge you for a retest Tom! Those limits are indeed for the post-92 cat emissions and it's running very well even with the exhaust blows!
If was a 1992 (or older) B200F it wouldn't be capable of meeting those emissions and has a dispensation to pass at higher levels, even with a cat!

Glad you've got it sorted anyway!
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Congratulations on the pass.While I generally try to give my cars the best chance of a straight pass I always figured anything sub £100 makes it a cheap years motoring.
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Congratulations on the pass.While I generally try to give my cars the best chance of a straight pass I always figured anything sub £100 makes it a cheap years motoring.
I was worried about rust (a perpetual concern!), brakes and front tyres, but all was well thankfully. Yes, a years ticket for <£100 is a very good outcome!

Just one MOT test charge thankkfully, or I might have had to have words! Thanks Dave, glad to know it's running well as far as the emissions are concerned - that supports the Penta engine plan next year rather than a complete engine swap - i'm firmly hoping that is still on the cards.

I'll take it to a tyre shop on Saturday morning to get all the wheels balanced, that is the next most irritating issue. The prop/gearbox output is still whining but we're kind of used to that now!

It's due a service too, we've had it 18 months now and although only 3500 miles have been coverted and the PO changed the oil before we bought it, i'll change the oil when I can as I'd rather be certain the oil is good. There was an BOGOF offer on Castrol's Magnatec when I serviced the Kia in September, so bought oil and filter for the hearse back then.

We are off to France next July, to the Le Mans classic and may go camping in the Hearse or at least go in the Bitroen BX GT if not. The Auto****e forum are having an event near Le Mans for the duration of the classic event which i'd like to attend. For my 30th birthday present, my OH bought me tickets to a see my favourite singer in a concert of Luigi Rossi's work in the Versaille palace's royal opera house, on the same weekend as the Le Mans classic and Auto****e event, so it was obviously meant to be! I'm quite excited!
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It's been a little while, not much going on with the Hearse. It is really running much better now the exhaust is patched, however as it's quieter there is a noticable tapping noise coming from the engine. I'm not too fussed as we plan to get the engine upgraded hopefully next year.

It's gone through a tank of fuel since I last posted, a good job we don't use it much as the MPG is shocking! The worst economy we've had.

198.2 miles
49.3L, equating to 10.95 gallons
198.2/10.95=18.1mpg

A slow puncture seems to have developed in the rear RHS tyre too, the balancing and tracking needs doing so when it goes in for that i'll get the man to test for a puncture.

In other news, I have won the battle of persuading the OH to change the Kia, hurrah! We are most likely going for a Lexus RX 400h, 3.3 hybrid jobbie. Very nice pice of kit, reliable by all accounts, has kept its value very well and will do 35mpg and better on the motorway. More importantly the boot is big enough for the rapidly growing dog and the ride height and 4WD mean getting in and out of the village over winter won't be a problem. I don't fancy the hearse on its very low profile (40 section), wide tyres on ice/snow!

Just incase anyone is interested, the Venag is for sale on ebay. Outside of ebay £4350 for Volvo owners should do it.
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Evening folks, I have a little update on the Hearse. Still not had the tracking/balancing done either!

Now the weather is getting chillier, everytime we want to use it every glass surface is fogged up inside - irritating, and there's lots of glass. I knew there was water in there as the rear carpets are wet and there was a sloshing sound when you brake sharply (not so much when you pull away quickly, because the B200E can't!) and I suspected the new Flettner vent was letting water in. Not so, the water in there, I think, is all from when the roof rails were loose and letting water in through the roof a while back, they've been siliconed within an inch of their wossnames for a while now, so should be quite watertight.

I had a 'spare' hour over lunch on Sunday, the OH was working and I should have been studying, but I needed to tighten up the alternator and power steering belts anyway...

I started here, damp but no leaks:



Aha! Holes in the roof, where the vinyl external covering had peeled back 4 pinholes had been exposed.



Some alarmingly crusty bits, *but* I think/hope it's just surface and can be removed and re-sealed.



Got to behind the passenger seat, oh dear it is really quite wet here, including mouldy vinyl covered fibreboard... This explains the wet rear passenger carpet.



So backtrack, removed side trim boards, also mouldy. Very mouldy.



Rear carpet removed, laid to dry out (but later hung on the line, once the washing was in, of course!)



An apalling photo of the undercarpet foam insulation pads - these were absolutely sodden and rivers of water were running down the drive.



Leaving this in the rear passenger footwell!



...and the remains of the rooflining and interior rear fibreboard-covered vinyl trim pieces. I went no further than the front seats due to time and bravery reasons, the front carpet will need to come out too as it has brown, assumedly rust stains throughout in patches, I worry about the front footwell floorpans, but that will be done another day.



I'm not sure if you can see, but every metal surface had either condensation or otherwise moisture on it, the headlining was a vinyl/pleather like material and was quite waterproof, trapping moisture between it and the roof.

Above each window is an uninentional gutter/channel, which allowed the water to flow backwards to the rear tyre well, or forwards to the footwells, the tyrewell has drain holes, but the front does not hence the water build up. I THINK it is waterproof now i've sealed those pinholes, but until it is dry inside it'll be difficult to ascertain, at least now it has a chance to dry out.

I'm looking into dehumidifiers
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At the risk of stating the obvious Tom, you need to find where it's coming in and stop the water ingress!
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At the risk of stating the obvious Tom, you need to find where it's coming in and stop the water ingress!
A valid point Dave, i'd hoped it was watertight but the damn things still leaking! A fresh puddle this morning and drips on the inside ends of the roof bar bolts, but there must be other pinholes too as there are drops of water on the deck in various places.

Will investigate rigging a tarpaulin for the next 3 weeks until I can strip the roof and seal it properly, i've borrowed mum's dehumidifier but not much point using it until the hearse is waterproof!

The OH has suggested selling this, and buying a 3.0 960 hearse when one comes up for sale, as this one needs spending on to get it practical and usable, not only the engine, but basics like waterproofing and exhaust etc. I poo-pooed him at the time as we've laready spent quite a bit on this one, and it is quite cool as a matt black 740 with these wheels, but...
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Am i correct in thinking the entire roof panel (at least on the extended part) is fibreglass Tom?

If so i've heard tales of fibreglass going porous in which case i'd suggest contacting a boatyard.

There used to be (and almost certainly still are) paints available to seal fibreglass, whether you'd have to do the outside as well as the inside i'm not sure but an option for the outside might be a vinyl roof to help seal it.

Presumably (on the basis the extension is fibreglass) there is a join that is sealed with butyl tape. I understand it's available from Volvo dealers but it's a generic product so you should be able to find it at most places.

It's messy stuff to remove, a heat gun and an acetone soaked cloth will be needed.

If i'm wrong and the extension section is metal, as a temporary measure i'd suggest Duck Tape over all the holes you can find. Once you've got them covered, get your OH to play a hose on the roof and see if you can find any other points of ingress, perhaps along the seam where the front and back half join. Again, a length of Duck Tape across this should seal it temporarily. It won't look pretty but in this weather you haven't got the option of allowing sealants to dry when the next downpour is imminent!

As for the idea of selling this one and waiting for a 960 hearse, there are some good points to this idea. However on balance, i think you'd be better off keeping what you've got.

First reason is fairly obvious, the 960 hearse will be of similar construction so at some point, you'll have water ingress again and no doubt exhaust problems too.

Second is you're likely to pay a lot more for the 960 than what this one already owes you.

Third, to be able to sell this one, you need to sort the problems that are making it desirable to sell it - counterproductive to say the least! The alternative is you sell it cheap and take a huge loss.

Fourth is once you've done this one, you'll know everything is how you want it, including the engine, gearbox etc. While that's going to take longer to achieve than buying a (seemingly) ready to use 960 hearse it will probably be cheaper in the long run and you'll have the satisfaction of "I did that!".

I could probably go on but i think you get the idea!
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Tom - have a look here for the option of a 3.0 engine, box and errr.............. everything you need from a 960 - in fact it is a 960!

Not a hearse though, just a later model MoT failure but because of the age of yours, that will still pass the MoT once the engine etc are in yours.

https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showt...28#post2581728
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