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Jackman · Jan 12th, 2011, 16:10

Ahh all comes clear now then. Explains the top plate on the chassis rail too, it is in the way of repairs so ill get the spot weld drill out for that.

Ive sent a email off to Simon about a few panels but that doesnt seem too unreasonable so it maybe chop the floors out and replace them... which does seem the better idea considering ill be having this car for a long time.

Derek UK · Jan 12th, 2011, 17:07

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Originally Posted by Jackman

Would it be safe to remove then or would you suggest leaving it?

That is still on my mind about replacing them fully, do it right first time and plenty more years of happy motoring.

Will look around and think (Expect it to get floors as im known to go over the top at times lol)

Lets hope its not too expensive for them all

If this is the piece I think it is, difficult to see in the pic, the factory put out a bulletin for adding a larger strengthening piece for fitting here. Approved for rallying as it strengthens the chassis rail to bulkhead junction. Rusty Amazons will also benefit from this mod! Acid leaking down to the junction under the battery doesn't help either.
Go to http://www.volvoamazonpictures.se/ ---Documents---Workshop Bulletins---Page 2--- scroll down to 81-04 "Fitting reinforcing plates"

Liberal use of a sand blaster would serve you well!

222s · Jan 12th, 2011, 18:19

Derek, that's a different section - the area that Chris circled is the small closing plate behind that, which IIRC is spotwelded only to the floor / bulkhead. The factory also spotwelded reinforcements on the section of the inner wing that you linked to (presumably only on the later cars though), which creates a horrendous rust trap. On my car this was replaced with much thicker gauge steel - same strength & appearance, but no longer harbours corrosion!

Alf ista · Jan 12th, 2011, 18:37

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Originally Posted by Jackman

Ive sent a email off to Simon

I remember emailing Simon about stuff when I first got my car and never got a response. Not sure what he is like now about that type of thing but I find it is probably better to ring him. He is great for advice and if you are buying a good bit of stuff from him dont forget to ask for the his best price.... worked for me!

Jackman · Jan 12th, 2011, 23:34

Well i sent him the email as if i havent got a reply id have rang and let him know about the email as i find it easier to explain things when i write it down rather than over the phone. I got a reply under 2 hours later which for an email i think is great response time.

Shall read it fully tomorrow and see where to go from there

Jackman · Jan 13th, 2011, 17:13

Good news everyone

I kinda got a bit trigger happy with the plasma cutter and this happened to appear.

This is the worst of the chassis rail, its very thin but only at the bottom at the top lip

I had to cut quite high on this panel as the top plate for the rail was paper thin all the way up so that will get replaced.

Only other bad bit was to the outrigger to the left which has lost a inch of the lip so that will get repaired too.

Order the panels tomorrow

222s · Jan 13th, 2011, 17:44

Careful with how much you cut away of the front floor - the replacement panels are essentially flat, and don't continue the upwards curve in the footwell (IIRC, that may be due to them stopping at a factory seam). Front outriggers are also available, should that make access to the main chassis repair easier.

Jackman · Jan 13th, 2011, 17:50

I wont be going any higher than that now. I went up at 5mm intervals to get to the top and have access to repair. Needs a patch above the LHD foot switch as it has a hole there too.

If possible im not going to remove the outrigger as its solid apart from that tiny part that needs the repair. Will have to see how much i need to replace of the main one though.

pez · Jan 17th, 2011, 20:16

enjoying this thread mate,ive taxed worse!! keep up the good work! and keep them pics coming!

Jackman · Jan 18th, 2011, 16:28

Well there has been progress since last time but not much to show as ive been trying to get the underseal off. What a horrible job that is, can only do too much before the thiners get to me and have to call it a day. Wish there was an easier less smelly way of cleaning it back to metal.

On a similar note there is very little corrosion under the underseal

Well today has been a good day, still clearing the floor but i got a birthday present

Panels! Time to kick this project into overdrive.

Also currently researching a engine change, will involve 5 cylinders

Jan 12th, 2011, 18:19	#53
222s Amazoniste Last Online: Sep 19th, 2016 21:52 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Emsworth View Photos By: 222s	Derek, that's a different section - the area that Chris circled is the small closing plate behind that, which IIRC is spotwelded only to the floor / bulkhead. The factory also spotwelded reinforcements on the section of the inner wing that you linked to (presumably only on the later cars though), which creates a horrendous rust trap. On my car this was replaced with much thicker gauge steel - same strength & appearance, but no longer harbours corrosion! __________________ Paul - 1967 Amazon 222S B20 o/d Estate & 1961 A-H Sprite Mk2 948cc WANTED - For '67 Amazon estate - offside rear quarter, preferably new old stock. Last edited by 222s; Jan 12th, 2011 at 18:26.

Jan 13th, 2011, 17:44	#57
222s Amazoniste Last Online: Sep 19th, 2016 21:52 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Emsworth View Photos By: 222s	Careful with how much you cut away of the front floor - the replacement panels are essentially flat, and don't continue the upwards curve in the footwell (IIRC, that may be due to them stopping at a factory seam). Front outriggers are also available, should that make access to the main chassis repair easier. __________________ Paul - 1967 Amazon 222S B20 o/d Estate & 1961 A-H Sprite Mk2 948cc WANTED - For '67 Amazon estate - offside rear quarter, preferably new old stock.

Jan 12th, 2011, 16:10	#51
Jackman Senior Member Last Online: Apr 8th, 2024 20:12 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Bramhall	Ahh all comes clear now then. Explains the top plate on the chassis rail too, it is in the way of repairs so ill get the spot weld drill out for that. Ive sent a email off to Simon about a few panels but that doesnt seem too unreasonable so it maybe chop the floors out and replace them... which does seem the better idea considering ill be having this car for a long time.

Jan 12th, 2011, 23:34	#55
Jackman Senior Member Last Online: Apr 8th, 2024 20:12 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Bramhall	Well i sent him the email as if i havent got a reply id have rang and let him know about the email as i find it easier to explain things when i write it down rather than over the phone. I got a reply under 2 hours later which for an email i think is great response time. Shall read it fully tomorrow and see where to go from there

Jan 13th, 2011, 17:13	#56
Jackman Senior Member Last Online: Apr 8th, 2024 20:12 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Bramhall	Good news everyone I kinda got a bit trigger happy with the plasma cutter and this happened to appear. This is the worst of the chassis rail, its very thin but only at the bottom at the top lip I had to cut quite high on this panel as the top plate for the rail was paper thin all the way up so that will get replaced. Only other bad bit was to the outrigger to the left which has lost a inch of the lip so that will get repaired too. Order the panels tomorrow

Jan 13th, 2011, 17:50	#58
Jackman Senior Member Last Online: Apr 8th, 2024 20:12 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Bramhall	I wont be going any higher than that now. I went up at 5mm intervals to get to the top and have access to repair. Needs a patch above the LHD foot switch as it has a hole there too. If possible im not going to remove the outrigger as its solid apart from that tiny part that needs the repair. Will have to see how much i need to replace of the main one though.

Jan 17th, 2011, 20:16	#59
pez VOC Member Last Online: Jan 16th, 2023 22:07 Join Date: May 2009 Location: teesside	enjoying this thread mate,ive taxed worse!! keep up the good work! and keep them pics coming!

Jan 18th, 2011, 16:28	#60
Jackman Senior Member Last Online: Apr 8th, 2024 20:12 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Bramhall	Well there has been progress since last time but not much to show as ive been trying to get the underseal off. What a horrible job that is, can only do too much before the thiners get to me and have to call it a day. Wish there was an easier less smelly way of cleaning it back to metal. On a similar note there is very little corrosion under the underseal Well today has been a good day, still clearing the floor but i got a birthday present Panels! Time to kick this project into overdrive. Also currently researching a engine change, will involve 5 cylinders

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