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Old Oct 3rd, 2017, 01:22   #1
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Hello,

I wanna put a oilcan in my car its a 1.9di .

I have 2 tubes 1 comes of the oilpanside to where the oildipstik sits.

1 comes as i can see good out of the side of the engine block and goes also to where the oildipstick sits .

And the 3th one goes from the dipstick to the airintake hose.

So should i with some kind of t-piece put the 2 of tubes the 1 from the oil pan and the 1 from the engine block to the oil catch tank and the tube that goes to the air intake hose on top of the oilcan ?

I made my own oil catch tank from a small fire extinguiser
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Old Oct 9th, 2017, 00:38   #2
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has anybody put an oilcan in his car ? And how ?
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Not sure what your intentions are, and I can only talk about petrol engines, but it sounds like you're modifying the crackcase ventilation.

The idea is that condesated liquids drain into the sump oil via the bottom hose by gravity. Evaporations are drawn by manifold suction and burned away.

The only benefit of a catch can which I can think of, is to collect the condensate instead of returning it to the oil. The top and bottom hoses vent the same space (the crackcase), so you'll need to plug the bottom hole somehow, and duct the top one to the top of your can, and vent the can to the manifold. What your can needs to do is ensure liquids fall into the can and not aersol themselves into the manifold as that would be bad news.

In that regard, a can which isn't regularly emptied is far worse than what the car currently has. I doubt there's any measurable advantage. But good luck with your project.
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Not sure what your intentions are, and I can only talk about petrol engines, but it sounds like you're modifying the crackcase ventilation.

The idea is that condesated liquids drain into the sump oil via the bottom hose by gravity. Evaporations are drawn by manifold suction and burned away.

The only benefit of a catch can which I can think of, is to collect the condensate instead of returning it to the oil. The top and bottom hoses vent the same space (the crackcase), so you'll need to plug the bottom hole somehow, and duct the top one to the top of your can, and vent the can to the manifold. What your can needs to do is ensure liquids fall into the can and not aersol themselves into the manifold as that would be bad news.

In that regard, a can which isn't regularly emptied is far worse than what the car currently has. I doubt there's any measurable advantage. But good luck with your project.
Thats exactly what i wanna do because i only want clear air into the manifold .
I already blockt off my egr valve and its a big difference for me because when i took i from the manifold i was full off sud .
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Thats exactly what i wanna do because i only want clear air into the manifold .
I already blockt off my egr valve and its a big difference for me because when i took i from the manifold i was full off sud .
Blocking off an EGR is classed as an illegal act even in Belgium and unless you get it approved as an engine mod it means your insurance policy is now invalid. You can get an approval for an EGR mod for cars insured for track use only.

No need to fiddle with a catch can, as Mr Volvo did know what he was doing as the manifold is easy to clean.
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Blocking off an EGR is classed as an illegal act even in Belgium and unless you get it approved as an engine mod it means your insurance policy is now invalid. You can get an approval for an EGR mod for cars insured for track use only.

No need to fiddle with a catch can, as Mr Volvo did know what he was doing as the manifold is easy to clean.
I know its illegal everywher but i don(t want to ruin my engine when i took it off the manifold had only a litle breathing hole left because off the carbon .

I put a plate between the egr hole and put the egr on there so they want see any changes .

And the oilcan i want put it in now
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I know its illegal everywher but i don(t want to ruin my engine when i took it off the manifold had only a litle breathing hole left because off the carbon .

I put a plate between the egr hole and put the egr on there so they want see any changes .

And the oilcan i want put it in now
A blocked intake or EGR will not damage the engine. You will notice a lag when booted well before either the intake or EGR blocks. Carbon particles do not cause an increase in engine wear and only make a very small difference in how long the oil lasts.

In a serious accident any insurance investigator will get the hidden fault codes read to see if the engine has been modified and they will almost certainly notice a hidden EGR fault code or find the blanking plate. Most investigators also check public forums for any chat about blanked off EGR's and as you are in Belgium it will be easy to find this thread. The oil can mod will be real easy to find.

If the insurance has been invalidated by an illegal act and the investigator can obtain proof of who did the mod involved then they will not pay for damage to your car and are fully entitled to take legal action against you to reclaim funds paid out to a third party. You will also get your name flagged on the central insurers register which will increase your next insurance premium in a big way, just like drink driving convictions.
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A blocked intake or EGR will not damage the engine. You will notice a lag when booted well before either the intake or EGR blocks. Carbon particles do not cause an increase in engine wear and only make a very small difference in how long the oil lasts.

In a serious accident any insurance investigator will get the hidden fault codes read to see if the engine has been modified and they will almost certainly notice a hidden EGR fault code or find the blanking plate. Most investigators also check public forums for any chat about blanked off EGR's and as you are in Belgium it will be easy to find this thread. The oil can mod will be real easy to find.

If the insurance has been invalidated by an illegal act and the investigator can obtain proof of who did the mod involved then they will not pay for damage to your car and are fully entitled to take legal action against you to reclaim funds paid out to a third party. You will also get your name flagged on the central insurers register which will increase your next insurance premium in a big way, just like drink driving convictions.
I have done this with all my cars and never had a problem with insurance here in belgium .

I wreckt my saab last year and everything was paid in full by the insurance never even heard off engine check over here in belgium .

I aint gonna wreck my engine because THE LITLE GREEN MEN want an EGR on it they aint paying for it am i wright.

I you now what those supertankers big manufacturers are putting in the air i think i want have put 1% of that in the air before i die.
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I have done this with all my cars and never had a problem with insurance here in belgium .

I wreckt my saab last year and everything was paid in full by the insurance never even heard off engine check over here in belgium .

I aint gonna wreck my engine because THE LITLE GREEN MEN want an EGR on it they aint paying for it am i wright.

I you now what those supertankers big manufacturers are putting in the air i think i want have put 1% of that in the air before i die.
You will not get a problem with your insurance company unless you are involved in a serious accident involving a third party, or your own car is valuable enough for them to appoint an investigator.

No EGR, CAT or other emissions control system will damage an engine, even if it blocks up or has a hole in it. Intake or EGR fouling makes no difference to engine wear and the recommended max oil change interval does take account of the slight increase in the rate at which the detergent additives in the oil are used up.

The NOX pollution produced by big ships makes no real difference in inner city air pollution terms and big marine diesels use heavy fuel oil and once warmed up are very clean anyway. They do produce a lot of Carbon particles when warming up, as they don't have a DPF.
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Thats exactly what i wanna do because i only want clear air into the manifold .
I already blockt off my egr valve and its a big difference for me because when i took i from the manifold i was full off sud .
The EGR is a different issue. I've read various points, I'm still undecided. The data I've seen seems to suggest an advantage - but still nagging doubt remains. I would've thought more air equals better combustion, therefore better efficiency. Conversely, less air (because of exaust gas being recirculated) equals less combustion, which means less horsepower, which is less efficient. But I'm not a scientist.

Regarding crankcase ventilation, the story is slightly different. At flat-out, there is insufficient vaccuum to make any difference, save for a slight venturi effect. You'll still be getting a near-perfect air/fuel ratio. The crankcase is only really given any draw during decelleration conditions. The net result is more maintainance for you, and no actual power advantage.

But that's just my opinion.
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