Amazon: - Rear seat belt advice

woodman · Mar 15th, 2010, 23:35

Hello

I have an offspring arriving in June and want to fit rear seatbelts and a child seat by then. I've read previous threads on this forum about seat belts, which seem to suggest that some welding might be needed on the floorpan, but the Volvo blurb AND the seat belt specialist I've contacted reckon all the fixings are ready to go. So I have three questions that I'd welcome your collective wisdom on:

1. Have other Amazon (mine's a '67) owners fitted seat belts and a child seat in the back, and how did it work out? What did you need to do?

2. What is the best way to fit the shoulder mountings without making a mess of the headlining?

3. Have you used specialist suppliers of 'nice' seat belts, and if so was it worth it? Is a DIY fit a realistic proposition?

Cheers.

Notlob · Mar 16th, 2010, 08:20

Hi There,

I've fitted rear seatbelts to my 68 Amazon and used the ones supplied by Brookhouse. They bolted straight in to mounting points that were already there.

The one at the rear shoulder just needed a hole punching through the headlining and then it went straight on.

Not sure if 67 cars have the mounting points.

If you are interested I could take some photos of the mounting points later in the week for you?

Dave

woodman · Mar 16th, 2010, 09:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Notlob

Hi There,

I've fitted rear seatbelts to my 68 Amazon and used the ones supplied by Brookhouse. They bolted straight in to mounting points that were already there.

The one at the rear shoulder just needed a hole punching through the headlining and then it went straight on.

Not sure if 67 cars have the mounting points.

If you are interested I could take some photos of the mounting points later in the week for you?

Dave

Some photos would be wonderful, thank you!. Andrew.

222s · Mar 16th, 2010, 10:30

My estate has Volvo belts in the back - all in original factory mounts. Lower ones should be the same as saloons:

Lower RH outer mount

Lower LH outer mount

Upper LH mount

Inner mounts

LH inner mount captive nut from underneath (propshaft visible in top RH corner)

Lower LH outer mount, after poking with a screwdriver. It had passed an MOT only a few months earlier, and before the screwdriver there was little that appeared wrong.... All repaired now though!

As for child seats, my car has been in the family for over 16 years, and at one stage had two child seats in the back. Apparently the fixed style belts (rather than inertia reel) were perfect for holding them as once tightened up, they weren't going to work loose.

DJS · Mar 16th, 2010, 12:51

Hi,

I fitted belts into the back of my 69 Amazon. The fixing points for the long end (the end of the webbing), the D loop and buckle were there already (7/16 UNF from memory). Have a look at the photo. The only bit that I needed to make was a mounting plate for the retractor. The hole in the parcel shelf was there so that the webbing could pass through to the retractor in the boot. If I have a chance tonight I will photograph the retractor mounting.

Alf ista · Mar 16th, 2010, 16:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJS

Hi,

I fitted belts into the back of my 69 Amazon. The fixing points for the long end (the end of the webbing), the D loop and buckle were there already (7/16 UNF from memory). Have a look at the photo. The only bit that I needed to make was a mounting plate for the retractor. The hole in the parcel shelf was there so that the webbing could pass through to the retractor in the boot. If I have a chance tonight I will photograph the retractor mounting.

Hi DJS, that looks great. My car has fixed belts in the back. They work ok, but I would prefer inertia belts for the kids. I always wondered though where to put the reel without it looking awful. In the boot of course! If you could show more pics of that it would be great!
Hugh.

DJS · Mar 17th, 2010, 08:16

Morning Hugh,

Here are a couple more pics of my rear belts. You need to make sure that you put the retractor onto a fairly thick plate, say 2.00mm. This acts as a load spreader under the parcel shelf. Any questions, let me know.

Darren.

Alf ista · Mar 18th, 2010, 00:08

Thats brilliant Darren. Very neat finish, looks great. Definitley one to put on the "to do" list. Thanks for the pics.
Hugh.

amazondean · Mar 18th, 2010, 07:40

Not all amazons have the lower mounting point fitted from the factory. Infact other than the later amazons i have always had to weld in threaded inserts when fitting rear seatbelts

woodman · Mar 19th, 2010, 10:16

Many thanks everyone for your excellent illustrated advice! I shall make plans to do this job in the spring and I'll let you know how it goes. Andrew.

Mar 15th, 2010, 23:35	#1
woodman Master Member Last Online: Mar 10th, 2023 13:03 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Sheffield	Rear seat belt advice Hello I have an offspring arriving in June and want to fit rear seatbelts and a child seat by then. I've read previous threads on this forum about seat belts, which seem to suggest that some welding might be needed on the floorpan, but the Volvo blurb AND the seat belt specialist I've contacted reckon all the fixings are ready to go. So I have three questions that I'd welcome your collective wisdom on: 1. Have other Amazon (mine's a '67) owners fitted seat belts and a child seat in the back, and how did it work out? What did you need to do? 2. What is the best way to fit the shoulder mountings without making a mess of the headlining? 3. Have you used specialist suppliers of 'nice' seat belts, and if so was it worth it? Is a DIY fit a realistic proposition? Cheers.

Mar 16th, 2010, 10:30	#4
222s Amazoniste Last Online: Sep 19th, 2016 21:52 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Emsworth View Photos By: 222s	My estate has Volvo belts in the back - all in original factory mounts. Lower ones should be the same as saloons: Lower RH outer mount Lower LH outer mount Upper LH mount Inner mounts LH inner mount captive nut from underneath (propshaft visible in top RH corner) Lower LH outer mount, after poking with a screwdriver. It had passed an MOT only a few months earlier, and before the screwdriver there was little that appeared wrong.... All repaired now though! As for child seats, my car has been in the family for over 16 years, and at one stage had two child seats in the back. Apparently the fixed style belts (rather than inertia reel) were perfect for holding them as once tightened up, they weren't going to work loose. __________________ Paul - 1967 Amazon 222S B20 o/d Estate & 1961 A-H Sprite Mk2 948cc WANTED - For '67 Amazon estate - offside rear quarter, preferably new old stock.

Mar 18th, 2010, 00:08	#8
Alf ista Premier Member Last Online: Apr 17th, 2024 12:54 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Co. Cork, Ireland.	Thats brilliant Darren. Very neat finish, looks great. Definitley one to put on the "to do" list. Thanks for the pics. Hugh. __________________ 1970 Volvo Amazon 131 with a B20A and an M40.

Mar 18th, 2010, 07:40	#9
amazondean amazondean Last Online: Apr 25th, 2024 19:27 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Nettleton Market Rasen	Not all amazons have the lower mounting point fitted from the factory. Infact other than the later amazons i have always had to weld in threaded inserts when fitting rear seatbelts __________________ There are only two things in life that is easy. One's lying down and the other is handing your credit card over. everything else has a degree of skill. Volvo 850 TDI, 850 TDI, 850 TDI Volvo V70 TDI, V70 TDI, Volvo V70 XC, (99)

Mar 16th, 2010, 08:20	#2
Notlob Senior Member Last Online: Jan 27th, 2024 23:14 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Southport	Hi There, I've fitted rear seatbelts to my 68 Amazon and used the ones supplied by Brookhouse. They bolted straight in to mounting points that were already there. The one at the rear shoulder just needed a hole punching through the headlining and then it went straight on. Not sure if 67 cars have the mounting points. If you are interested I could take some photos of the mounting points later in the week for you? Dave

Mar 19th, 2010, 10:16	#10
woodman Master Member Last Online: Mar 10th, 2023 13:03 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Sheffield	Many thanks everyone for your excellent illustrated advice! I shall make plans to do this job in the spring and I'll let you know how it goes. Andrew.

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