Car parking fees for gas guzzlers

Velorum · Oct 25th, 2006, 22:57

There have been a number of items on the news today about Richmond Council charging increased rates for 'gas guzzling' cars and 4x4's. If this goes ahead perhaps it will be emulated by other authorities. I am just wondering what criteria is used to decide which cars this applies to - 4WD, engine size, mpg figures etc? Can anyone shed any light on this? Ive done a google search but this didnt shed much light.

Ian

S60-MBS · Oct 25th, 2006, 23:03

From what i understand its based on emmisions Ian...large 4x4 drivers can expect to pay about £25 per day to use lobdon roads...bloody rip off...road tax rising too..

Velorum · Oct 25th, 2006, 23:09

Ive just been watching an article on newsnight about this. One interesting statistic given was that if everyone in the UK stopped using their car tomorrow (thus zero car emissions) then at their current rate of increasing car useage the Chinese will cancel this improvement out in approximately 85 days!

It was also stated that in addition to modern 'gas guzzlers' (still not sure exactly what this applies to) cars older than 10 years with engines bigger than 3 litres will pay up to 200% more for parking in front of their own houses.

I suspect that at some point in the future when historians look back on this period it will be with a sense of bemusement at this sort of reactionary and illogical policy.

S60-MBS · Oct 25th, 2006, 23:17

Lol ...just saw that...i dont really think its the envorimental issues influencing our government....its just the basic rip-off Britain policy....or rather rip off the British motorist(fully legal,law abiding citzen)..did you watch the programme earlier on BBC1 about foriegn drivers?....

Velorum · Oct 25th, 2006, 23:22

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Originally Posted by S60-MBS

did you watch the programme earlier on BBC1 about foriegn drivers?....

Missed that one - what was the gist of it?

S60-MBS · Oct 25th, 2006, 23:36

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Originally Posted by Ian Hutchinson

Missed that one - what was the gist of it?

Well it was quite interesting...atleast 8 trucks per day are found to be dangerously faulty at Uk ports and atleast 20 drivers are ordered to stop each day by police...as the driver hasnt rested enough...the police and VOSA are powerless to enforce fines abroad and basically cant do much about the problems....the profit margins for the overseas companies are so big they can afford to take risks and pay the feeble fines if pressured enough..Vosa wants to introduce on the spot fines for truckers...but the very important thing thats Vosa stated is that they are undermanned and under funded..they cant always be there to protect the UK public..the police have argued their case aswell stating lives are at risk as long as these foriegn drivers are driving on uk roads..sometimes they could have driven right accross the country before being nabbed by police in Holyhead who despite being undermanned are pro active in reducing the number of dangerous drivers on our roads...they showed footae of a sleeping trucker who killed 4 people including 2 kids ...he denied ever sleeping in court and he just got 5 yrs sentence for death by dangerous driving...i know 3 very young children who were orphaned last year just before Xmas...driver was also asleep...

Velorum · Oct 25th, 2006, 23:50

I am resisting the urge to go into an EU rant again!

CTCNetwork · Oct 26th, 2006, 00:14

Hi,

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Originally Posted by S60-MBS

the police and VOSA are powerless to enforce fines

All the government would need to do would be to introduce on-the-spot fines for all continental drivers.
And then, of course, have more police, road checks... Have I been here before?

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Originally Posted by Ian Hutchinson

I am resisting the urge to go into an EU rant again!

Must.... Resist.... Temptation....

Des. . .

Velorum · Oct 26th, 2006, 00:21

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Originally Posted by CTCNetwork

And then, of course, have more police, road checks... Have I been here before?....

Des. . .

Yes Des, we both have! But as you say, hard to resist.......

Ian

alsner · Oct 26th, 2006, 00:21

Hi, Apparently they have introduced on the spot fines and out of 200+ stopped 75 were defective, watched the BBC (real story) programme and newsnight tonight.

I think I've ranted enought for the next few days poss weeks lol.

Ali

Oct 25th, 2006, 22:57	#1
Velorum VOC Member Last Online: Apr 17th, 2023 20:49 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Newquay	Car parking fees for gas guzzlers There have been a number of items on the news today about Richmond Council charging increased rates for 'gas guzzling' cars and 4x4's. If this goes ahead perhaps it will be emulated by other authorities. I am just wondering what criteria is used to decide which cars this applies to - 4WD, engine size, mpg figures etc? Can anyone shed any light on this? Ive done a google search but this didnt shed much light. Ian __________________ Past Volvos 340's (2), 240 saloons (4), 240 estates (5), 740 estate (1), 760 saloon (1), 940 saloon (1), 940 estate (1)

Oct 25th, 2006, 23:03	#2
S60-MBS VOC Member Last Online: Jun 7th, 2020 11:28 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: ???????????????? View Photos By: S60-MBS	From what i understand its based on emmisions Ian...large 4x4 drivers can expect to pay about £25 per day to use lobdon roads...bloody rip off...road tax rising too.. __________________

Oct 25th, 2006, 23:09	#3
Velorum VOC Member Last Online: Apr 17th, 2023 20:49 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Newquay	Ive just been watching an article on newsnight about this. One interesting statistic given was that if everyone in the UK stopped using their car tomorrow (thus zero car emissions) then at their current rate of increasing car useage the Chinese will cancel this improvement out in approximately 85 days! It was also stated that in addition to modern 'gas guzzlers' (still not sure exactly what this applies to) cars older than 10 years with engines bigger than 3 litres will pay up to 200% more for parking in front of their own houses. I suspect that at some point in the future when historians look back on this period it will be with a sense of bemusement at this sort of reactionary and illogical policy. __________________ Past Volvos 340's (2), 240 saloons (4), 240 estates (5), 740 estate (1), 760 saloon (1), 940 saloon (1), 940 estate (1) Last edited by Velorum; Oct 25th, 2006 at 23:21.

Oct 25th, 2006, 23:17	#4
S60-MBS VOC Member Last Online: Jun 7th, 2020 11:28 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: ???????????????? View Photos By: S60-MBS	Lol ...just saw that...i dont really think its the envorimental issues influencing our government....its just the basic rip-off Britain policy....or rather rip off the British motorist(fully legal,law abiding citzen)..did you watch the programme earlier on BBC1 about foriegn drivers?.... __________________

Oct 25th, 2006, 23:50	#7
Velorum VOC Member Last Online: Apr 17th, 2023 20:49 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Newquay	I am resisting the urge to go into an EU rant again! __________________ Past Volvos 340's (2), 240 saloons (4), 240 estates (5), 740 estate (1), 760 saloon (1), 940 saloon (1), 940 estate (1)

Oct 26th, 2006, 00:21	#10
alsner In Volvo limbo Last Online: Aug 4th, 2013 03:26 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: At home View Photos By: alsner	Hi, Apparently they have introduced on the spot fines and out of 200+ stopped 75 were defective, watched the BBC (real story) programme and newsnight tonight. I think I've ranted enought for the next few days poss weeks lol. Ali __________________ Volvo History 1990 745 GLE (10 months) 1989 745 Turbo (16 months) I will return to the fold when the time is right. *It's Just a Ride* Bill Hicks

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