car tax and emmissions

kustom2007 · Mar 2nd, 2019, 12:16

New MOT rules this year the emmissions have to be lower than the sticker under the bonnet mine says 1.51 on the sticker but every MOT mine are lower than 1.19 and cars below 1.20 should be paying £30 a year tax so why do i pay over £200 is it because they go by the sticker when really it should be what your emmissions are on the MOT

Zebster · Mar 2nd, 2019, 12:45

The MOT test does not assess your emission figures under normal road use, merely on idle.

kustom2007 · Mar 2nd, 2019, 13:18

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Originally Posted by Zebster

The MOT test does not assess your emission figures under normal road use, merely on idle.

Idle ? they rev the nuts off them

ITSv40 · Mar 2nd, 2019, 16:09

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Originally Posted by kustom2007

Idle ? they rev the nuts off them

You need to change your MOT tester

The road tax is assessed on pre-prescribed emissions for a particular model, not an individual vehicle.

kustom2007 · Mar 2nd, 2019, 16:19

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Originally Posted by ITSv40

You need to change your MOT tester

The road tax is assessed on pre-prescribed emissions for a particular model, not an individual vehicle.

Not really i would never change my MOT tester. but that's my point it should be by individual mines low so should ber low tax that's fair.

DaveNP · Mar 2nd, 2019, 16:32

Can you imagine the cost of the admin to change to individual rates, then add to that the potential for appeals because it's been messed up. and the new question of how reliable an individual test centre is. Taxation in bands dependent on the manufacturers' stated design figures may not be individually fair but I'd say it seems more practical.

Zebster · Mar 2nd, 2019, 17:20

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Originally Posted by kustom2007

Idle ? they rev the nuts off them

But the engine isn't loaded, hence idle. I didn't say tickover.

byootox · Mar 2nd, 2019, 23:28

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Originally Posted by Zebster

But the engine isn't loaded, hence idle. I didn't say tickover.

Idle and tick over are one in the same

Dippydog · Mar 3rd, 2019, 07:57

As I understand it there are two parts to it for petrol engines the "natural idle" which is tickover and "fast idle" where higher revs are held for a set number of seconds? Diesel test is different in this regard I believe? As for car tax/emissions I have two cars the V70 is insured for 4,000mls per year and the Omega for 1,000 per year neither car comes close to hitting those limits,so while my cars are relatively thirsty[and therefore more polluting?] compared to smaller engine vehicles am I causing more or less pollution than a smaller engine car[with cheaper tax/ved rate]doing the national average or even more?I have said for years that car tax should be scrapped and the cost added to fuel then that way those using the roads more would pay more.

Zebster · Mar 3rd, 2019, 08:54

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Originally Posted by byootox

Idle and tick over are one in the same

I believe you actually mean 'one and the same'?

They aren't. And if you hadn't given me that 'rolleyes' emoji b0llocks I would have educated you regarding the difference.

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kustom2007 Junior Member Last Online: Oct 9th, 2021 17:56 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: stoke	car tax and emmissions New MOT rules this year the emmissions have to be lower than the sticker under the bonnet mine says 1.51 on the sticker but every MOT mine are lower than 1.19 and cars below 1.20 should be paying £30 a year tax so why do i pay over £200 is it because they go by the sticker when really it should be what your emmissions are on the MOT

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Zebster Upstanding Member Last Online: Sep 12th, 2023 11:29 Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Ludlow	The MOT test does not assess your emission figures under normal road use, merely on idle. __________________ GONE: 2015 V60 D4 181 (VEA) R-Design Lux Nav manual in black

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DaveNP Non VOC Member Last Online: Apr 22nd, 2024 19:37 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Milton Keynes	Can you imagine the cost of the admin to change to individual rates, then add to that the potential for appeals because it's been messed up. and the new question of how reliable an individual test centre is. Taxation in bands dependent on the manufacturers' stated design figures may not be individually fair but I'd say it seems more practical. __________________ David V70 2.5 10v Torslanda Manual 98 Sreg

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Dippydog Premier Member Last Online: Yesterday 17:18 Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: S****horpe	As I understand it there are two parts to it for petrol engines the "natural idle" which is tickover and "fast idle" where higher revs are held for a set number of seconds? Diesel test is different in this regard I believe? As for car tax/emissions I have two cars the V70 is insured for 4,000mls per year and the Omega for 1,000 per year neither car comes close to hitting those limits,so while my cars are relatively thirsty[and therefore more polluting?] compared to smaller engine vehicles am I causing more or less pollution than a smaller engine car[with cheaper tax/ved rate]doing the national average or even more?I have said for years that car tax should be scrapped and the cost added to fuel then that way those using the roads more would pay more.

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