PV: - Thinking ahead - Front cross member welding

Army · Feb 2nd, 2018, 18:36

G'day Folks,

I was wondering how stable the front outriggers / chassis legs (under the engine) of a PV544 actually are...

...I wonder because I have to make up a new cross member tube (cheaper than buying a spare part - it is only a bit of 2 inch tube that needs the fixings welded to it and seeing as I'm going to be welding it anyway) and weld it onto the front of these chassis legs.

If I cut this front cross member is it likely that the weight of the engine will splay the legs out a bit? I'm not planning to remove the subframe just yet but can't wait to pull the engine out (!)

Army · Feb 2nd, 2018, 18:40

Oh hang about may be the engine isn't going to do a thing - the anti-roll bar is still there holding the position as well...

...oh I don't know - could just be a cut and see - still if anyone here has actually done this job before I'd like to hear from you

arcturus · Feb 3rd, 2018, 09:12

Ask the guys on the Swedish Volvo PV club, they will have all the answers. They for the most part speak English

Army · Feb 3rd, 2018, 09:44

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Originally Posted by arcturus

Ask the guys on the Swedish Volvo PV club, they will have all the answers. They for the most part speak English

Oh dear joined the wrong forum did I? !!!

old fart · Feb 3rd, 2018, 10:41

Can't see the weight of the engine making any difference, as it's mounted on the sub frame, and that's going to hold everything in place, as long as it's properly supported.

Derek UK · Feb 3rd, 2018, 11:09

Weld a length of angle iron across the 2 frame horns before cutting out the tube if you're worried about movement. Good luck.

arcturus · Feb 3rd, 2018, 13:39

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Originally Posted by Army

Oh dear joined the wrong forum did I? !!!

These guys specialize in PVs
https://www.facebook.com/groups/3100...ghts&ref=notif
This is also available
http://www.vp-autoparts.com/main.asp...e&artno=663243

Army · Feb 3rd, 2018, 18:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by arcturus

These guys specialize in PVs
https://www.facebook.com/groups/3100...ghts&ref=notif
This is also available
http://www.vp-autoparts.com/main.asp...e&artno=663243

Thanks but I don't see the benefit to buying the part. I can probably get a bit of pipe for a few euros and then weld the existing supports (after cutting them free from the old part) on the new tube. I have to then weld the whole thing onto the chassis legs anyway so paying the prices between 40 euros (cheapest I've seen) to 125 euros (most expensive I've seen!) seems like a waste of dosh...

...it looks like the interior trim prices are so huge I really need to save up for that instead!

Army · Feb 8th, 2018, 08:53

Pain in the backside - I can not find anyone locally who can supply a bit of 2 inch pipe. There are places on the web that will send me a bit but that will cost the same price as the part.

So I´ve ordered the sodding part.

All because I live in the middle of effing nowhere...

Feb 2nd, 2018, 18:36	#1
Army marches on his stomach Last Online: Feb 11th, 2022 03:15 Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Somewhere in the Netherlands	Thinking ahead - Front cross member welding G'day Folks, I was wondering how stable the front outriggers / chassis legs (under the engine) of a PV544 actually are... ...I wonder because I have to make up a new cross member tube (cheaper than buying a spare part - it is only a bit of 2 inch tube that needs the fixings welded to it and seeing as I'm going to be welding it anyway) and weld it onto the front of these chassis legs. If I cut this front cross member is it likely that the weight of the engine will splay the legs out a bit? I'm not planning to remove the subframe just yet but can't wait to pull the engine out (!) __________________ 1961 Volvo PV544 the quick and easy in between project(!) 1981 Mercedes 300D <=> 230 diesel to petrol conversion project 1965 Series 2a Station Wagon mega build 1992 Mercedes 190E The car that works!

Feb 2nd, 2018, 18:40	#2
Army marches on his stomach Last Online: Feb 11th, 2022 03:15 Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Somewhere in the Netherlands	Oh hang about may be the engine isn't going to do a thing - the anti-roll bar is still there holding the position as well... ...oh I don't know - could just be a cut and see - still if anyone here has actually done this job before I'd like to hear from you __________________ 1961 Volvo PV544 the quick and easy in between project(!) 1981 Mercedes 300D <=> 230 diesel to petrol conversion project 1965 Series 2a Station Wagon mega build 1992 Mercedes 190E The car that works!

Feb 3rd, 2018, 09:12	#3
arcturus arcturus Last Online: Apr 10th, 2024 08:21 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sagres Portugal	Ask the guys on the Swedish Volvo PV club, they will have all the answers. They for the most part speak English __________________ life's too short to drink bad wine

Feb 8th, 2018, 08:53	#9
Army marches on his stomach Last Online: Feb 11th, 2022 03:15 Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Somewhere in the Netherlands	Pain in the backside - I can not find anyone locally who can supply a bit of 2 inch pipe. There are places on the web that will send me a bit but that will cost the same price as the part. So I´ve ordered the sodding part. All because I live in the middle of effing nowhere... __________________ 1961 Volvo PV544 the quick and easy in between project(!) 1981 Mercedes 300D <=> 230 diesel to petrol conversion project 1965 Series 2a Station Wagon mega build 1992 Mercedes 190E The car that works!

Feb 3rd, 2018, 10:41	#5
old fart Master Member Last Online: Mar 28th, 2024 14:15 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Droitwich	Can't see the weight of the engine making any difference, as it's mounted on the sub frame, and that's going to hold everything in place, as long as it's properly supported.

Feb 3rd, 2018, 11:09	#6
Derek UK VOC Member Last Online: Yesterday 17:06 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Chatham	Weld a length of angle iron across the 2 frame horns before cutting out the tube if you're worried about movement. Good luck.

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