Touch screens in cars

The Talking Donkey · Mar 20th, 2018, 19:19

I'm staggered these are finding their way into production cars. Admittedly my only experience is from a Pioneer AppRadio3 I had fitted to my last car. It was lethal. There is nothing to 'feel', everything has to be located by eye, which means, albeit momentarily, your eys leave the road. Its illegal to use a phone in a car for good reason, so why do these reasons not extend to car controls.

Anybody unlucky enough to have these new systems fitted, please be careful.

Ukwide · Mar 20th, 2018, 19:22

I agree mate, most look like piggin iPads blue tacked to the dashboard and I can’t see the difference between using one of these and a mobile phone.....

Rex65 · Mar 20th, 2018, 20:02

Every single car I've had with a touch screen can also be operated with voice commands by simply pressing a button on the steering wheel and telling the car what you want to do.
No need to even remove your hands from the wheel let alone take your eyes off the road.
I guess people will be requiring all cars to be automatics next so you don't get distracted changing gear?

Ukwide · Mar 20th, 2018, 20:50

Most mobile phones can now be voice activated, but it’s still an offence to use one whilst in control of a motor vehicle, the point the post makes is, what’s the difference.....

Bendolfc · Mar 20th, 2018, 20:56

The difference is the legislation banning mobile phones was written before phones even had touch screens.

By that logic the buttons in a car should be banned as they are similar to those that phones had in those days.

Rex65 · Mar 20th, 2018, 21:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ukwide

Most mobile phones can now be voice activated, but it’s still an offence to use one whilst in control of a motor vehicle..

No it isn't....
https://www.gov.uk/using-mobile-phon...riving-the-law

It’s illegal to hold a phone or sat nav while driving or riding a motorcycle. You must have hands-free access, such as:

a bluetooth headset
voice command
a dashboard holder or mat
a windscreen mount
a built-in sat nav

The Talking Donkey · Mar 20th, 2018, 22:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rex65

Every single car I've had with a touch screen can also be operated with voice commands by simply pressing a button on the steering wheel and telling the car what you want to do.
No need to even remove your hands from the wheel let alone take your eyes off the road.
I guess people will be requiring all cars to be automatics next so you don't get distracted changing gear?

Do you look at the gearstick to change gear? No, you feel where it is.....Can your car change the temperature from 19 to 22c by voice control? My 6 month old xc60 says "Sluff " instead of Slough, "Arksfud" instead of Oxford. Good luck controlling your car.

Rex65 · Mar 20th, 2018, 22:03

Thanks, I have no problems at all controlling my car.

BEJ · Mar 20th, 2018, 22:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Talking Donkey

Do you look at the gearstick to change gear? No, you feel where it is.....Can your car change the temperature from 19 to 22c by voice control? My 6 month old xc60 says "Sluff " instead of Slough, "Arksfud" instead of Oxford. Good luck controlling your car.

Mine says "Re ring" instead of Reading, "Chorch" instead of church. I could go on for ages.

mfresh · Mar 21st, 2018, 16:35

The OP is absolutely right - touch screens are completely the wrong technology for cars.

In my XC60, you can navigate the menus on the screen using the thumb wheel while diverting your eyes for a fraction of a second to select commands, songs etc.

I have used a touch screen in another car and it's necessary to take a long look at the screen, move your finger to the appropriate icon, often having to move the orientation of your hand in order to press a button close to the edge of the screen (because the screen is countersunk into the dash) and then keep looking to see if you did hit the button or missed it.

There is simply no question that this is far more distracting and involves take your eyes off the road far longer than using a thumbwheel with a non-touch screen, and therefore it is bound to be more dangerous.

It is just the wrong technology for the use case in question - controlling an computer system while driving and it staggers me that any car maker thinks otherwise.

And the Arksfud pronounciation is really bizzarre....

Mar 20th, 2018, 19:19	#1
The Talking Donkey Junior Member Last Online: Aug 18th, 2018 22:26 Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Aylesbury	Touch screens in cars I'm staggered these are finding their way into production cars. Admittedly my only experience is from a Pioneer AppRadio3 I had fitted to my last car. It was lethal. There is nothing to 'feel', everything has to be located by eye, which means, albeit momentarily, your eys leave the road. Its illegal to use a phone in a car for good reason, so why do these reasons not extend to car controls. Anybody unlucky enough to have these new systems fitted, please be careful. __________________ Sept 17 XC60 D4 FWD AUTO R Design Lux, Winter Pack, Rubbish Sat Nav and Audio, annoying heated element in windscreen.

Mar 20th, 2018, 19:22	#2
Ukwide Member Last Online: Apr 14th, 2021 19:49 Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Great Durnford	Touch screens in cars I agree mate, most look like piggin iPads blue tacked to the dashboard and I can’t see the difference between using one of these and a mobile phone.....

Mar 20th, 2018, 20:02	#3
Rex65 Member Last Online: Nov 11th, 2019 07:40 Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Nuneaton	Every single car I've had with a touch screen can also be operated with voice commands by simply pressing a button on the steering wheel and telling the car what you want to do. No need to even remove your hands from the wheel let alone take your eyes off the road. I guess people will be requiring all cars to be automatics next so you don't get distracted changing gear? __________________ 2015 XC60 D4 Manual

Mar 20th, 2018, 22:03	#8
Rex65 Member Last Online: Nov 11th, 2019 07:40 Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Nuneaton	Thanks, I have no problems at all controlling my car. __________________ 2015 XC60 D4 Manual

Mar 21st, 2018, 16:35	#10
mfresh Nice person Last Online: Apr 15th, 2024 18:03 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Henley on Thames	The OP is absolutely right - touch screens are completely the wrong technology for cars. In my XC60, you can navigate the menus on the screen using the thumb wheel while diverting your eyes for a fraction of a second to select commands, songs etc. I have used a touch screen in another car and it's necessary to take a long look at the screen, move your finger to the appropriate icon, often having to move the orientation of your hand in order to press a button close to the edge of the screen (because the screen is countersunk into the dash) and then keep looking to see if you did hit the button or missed it. There is simply no question that this is far more distracting and involves take your eyes off the road far longer than using a thumbwheel with a non-touch screen, and therefore it is bound to be more dangerous. It is just the wrong technology for the use case in question - controlling an computer system while driving and it staggers me that any car maker thinks otherwise. And the Arksfud pronounciation is really bizzarre.... __________________ Red MY20 XC60 T5 Inscription

Mar 20th, 2018, 20:50	#4
Ukwide Member Last Online: Apr 14th, 2021 19:49 Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Great Durnford	Most mobile phones can now be voice activated, but it’s still an offence to use one whilst in control of a motor vehicle, the point the post makes is, what’s the difference.....

Mar 20th, 2018, 20:56	#5
Bendolfc Premier Member Last Online: Today 12:10 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Liverpool	The difference is the legislation banning mobile phones was written before phones even had touch screens. By that logic the buttons in a car should be banned as they are similar to those that phones had in those days.

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