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S80 '06-'16 / V70 & XC70 '07-'16 General Forum for the P3-platform S80 and 70-series models |
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Sep 24th, 2020, 00:22 | #31 | |
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I'm more than capable of making my own decisions as to whether I use the lights or not, so much so that it isn't a "worry" about turning the lights on manually to match the degree of darkness, its common sense & a natural habit. I don't think its a big deal to turn a switch... Its not a legal requirement to have operational DRL's on my car either, as its older than 2018 (nor is it an MOT failure, due to the age of the car).
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Sep 24th, 2020, 14:39 | #32 |
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Vehicle manufacturers must fit DRL to new types of passenger car and light goods vehicle (car derived vans) type approved to European vehicle requirements from February 2011 1 . ... DRL activate automatically when the engine is started and remain on unless the headlamps are switched on.1 Nov 2010 Feb 2011? |
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So if you bring your car in for an MOT with DRL's that aren't working, providing its registered before March 2018, it can't fail an MOT. If your car is registered March 2018 or newer, then the DRL's have to work when the car is due its first MOT & they must be operation for all other MOT's going forward.
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I do realise that it's legal to drive in a built up area with sidelights but that does not make it wise or safe. If it's dark enough to need any lights when driving, then you need headlights.
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113 You MUST ensure all sidelights and rear registration plate lights are lit between sunset and sunrise use headlights at night, except on a road which has lit street lighting. These roads are generally restricted to a speed limit of 30 mph (48 km/h) unless otherwise specified use headlights when visibility is seriously reduced (see Rule 226). Night (the hours of darkness) is defined as the period between half an hour after sunset and half an hour before sunrise). Laws RVLR regs 3, 24, & 25, (In Scotland - RTRA 1984 sect 82 (as amended by NRSWA, para 59 of sched 8)) You'd have to be stupid to do it though, and it conflicts with rule 226 when visibility is "seriously reduced" which, to my mind, means it's dark !
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I've never understood the motivation to want to drive without dipped headlights when a driver recognises that he needs lights because it's getting dark but only switches on the side lights. I've heard such drivers say that they are saving fuel because the headlights consume more power than the side lights. I've come across drivers who were afraid of blinding oncoming drivers and I've heard the opinion that if you can see ahead without dipped lights you don't need them but without any reason for making that decision.
Actually it's a bit like Covid masks. We wear masks not to protect ourselves but to protect others from us in case we have the infection but don't know it. We need to switch on higher visibility lights at night not just because we need them to see but because they make us more visible to other drivers who may not be paying sufficient attention and need that extra aid to see us before there's insufficient time for them to react. Side lights just won't provide those fractions of a second saving in reaction time. If that costs us an egg cup of fuel and having to renew headlight bulbs a year or so early, isn't that a very small price to pay for improving safety for others on the road? Volvo think so and design the lights so that we are safer on the road. If we think that there is a level of reduced visibility where sidelights are sufficient and that we can make the decision when that less than optimum visibility becomes bad enough to need to switch on dipped lights, we are kidding ourselves because any level of reduced visibility is enough to necessitate the maximum safe light warning to other road users.
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I frequently ran on sidelights only as marker lights on the van . It was of an age where it had no drl so, this gave rear lights at all times and enabled me to see the deeply reassessed instruments clearly.
Current van has drl BUT they give no rear illumination and the headlight switch has only 2 positions, on or off. In order to give rear illumination to following drivers and illuminate the receased instruments, I have to run on headlights. The volvo I have has reprogrammed so that off is off. While I normally leave the switch in pos 3 for dipped beam and rear drl it is useful to be able to turn the lights off, especially when carrying out diagnostics. With the headlamps and ignition on it is not long before the battery voltage is too low to give reliable readings unless a charger is connected. The 26 year old land-rover has a wonderful devise where if on sidelights, turning the ignition on gives dim dipped beam as driving lights while all tail lights are illuminated. Full brightness is achieved by turning the headlamps on. In biking circles the mantra is see and be seen, which is why most modern bikes run headlights all the time. I tend to follow this practice . If it's big and got lights on you must of been driving with your eyes shut to not see me. I do however abhor the practice of front only drl and dash lighting many modern cars have. If you have lights at the front you need them at the back. Paul. |
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The issue i see with using just the sidelights as running lights, and I see this time and time again and that's folks forgetting to up it to low beam when it gets darker, the see the dash lit up (as it does with just the parking lights on) thus taking their eye off the ball, really grips my poop...
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