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Xc90 > **garage dispute** > **d5 cylinder head failure**

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Old Sep 15th, 2020, 16:26   #21
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I think the comments from palwing are sage. Forget about trying to make further progress with the current garage, until you have further information available to you. As palwing has said, reclaiming your vehicle and seeking repair elsewhere still leaves open the option of a remedy through the small claims court at a later time, when you have all the facts available that you can.

I would not part with £400 for the IAEA inspection. There's no guarantee that it will advance your cause (at least, no more so than having it looked at by a another specialist or dealer) and it feels to me as if it's a good chunk of what it might cost to repair your car. I would ask another Volvo independent for a repair estimate, if they were amenable to using a second hand head for the repair, so you have something for comparison. Given that vehicles of the age of yours are going for between 3500 and 6k on autotrader, parting with it for £500 and then potentially taking on someone else's problem may well not be the most cost effective route to getting you back behind the wheel of a good XC90.
I've had a indie Volvo garage in Nottingham advising me and again very helpful.

He actually confirmed the total £3k pricing of the repair, including the cost of the head was about right.

One other option would be to fit a used/recon engine. Purchase cost on Ebay being £600-£800. Fitting cost unsure.
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Old Sep 15th, 2020, 19:31   #22
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For what it's worth, I have the 't' shirt on this one.

Mines my '03 so really not worth much, but I like it.

An incompetent garage screwed up my calender head (had it welded) and had to pay to get the car away after 8 werks and moved to a reputable indie. I could not ask this garage to try and fix the existing bodge so ordered a replacement engine from a breaker understandin that in the replacement, engine mounts, chankshaft oil seals, core plugs etcetc would all be checked/replaced of needed.

Engine - £450, recon turbo £280, engine mounts, oil, antifreeze, AC regas, total labour £1700.

I know far more than car is worth, but now 7 months and 5000 miles later, all fine.

Major recommendation, make sure your garage is competent!

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For what it's worth, I have the 't' shirt on this one.

Mines my '03 so really not worth much, but I like it.

An incompetent garage screwed up my calender head (had it welded) and had to pay to get the car away after 8 werks and moved to a reputable indie. I could not ask this garage to try and fix the existing bodge so ordered a replacement engine from a breaker understandin that in the replacement, engine mounts, chankshaft oil seals, core plugs etcetc would all be checked/replaced of needed.

Engine - £450, recon turbo £280, engine mounts, oil, antifreeze, AC regas, total labour £1700.

I know far more than car is worth, but now 7 months and 5000 miles later, all fine.

Major recommendation, make sure your garage is competent!

John l
Thanks John. Appreciated.

After 8 months and having mediation involved (waste of time imho), multiple emails/phone calls ones patience begins to waiver.......
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I guess the question is do you want to move forward or waste any more of your life looking backwards?

I'd get the car recovered a.s.a.p. and over to someone else more competent and honest.

FYI becuase D5 engines, especially the 163 E3 units, are so reliable they are as cheap as chips second hand. If cylinder head work is required it's usually cheaper these days to drop in another lump unless yours is particularly low mileage. An engine, timing belt kit, labour be cheaper than then head work, lots more labour and a head gasket kit. The D5 is relatively easy to lift out of the XC90 as there's loads of room.
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I guess the question is do you want to move forward or waste any more of your life looking backwards?

I'd get the car recovered a.s.a.p. and over to someone else more competent and honest.

FYI becuase D5 engines, especially the 163 E3 units, are so reliable they are as cheap as chips second hand. If cylinder head work is required it's usually cheaper these days to drop in another lump unless yours is particularly low mileage. An engine, timing belt kit, labour be cheaper than then head work, lots more labour and a head gasket kit. The D5 is relatively easy to lift out of the XC90 as there's loads of room.
Second this - be surprised if you couldn't have it back on the road fully serviced for under £1500
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