XC60 led Volvo sales with a 387% increase

[jonnyu]

Volvo has sold more than 600.000 cars worldwide for the first time ever.
Sales were led by the new XC60 that had a 387% increase.
I bet that the 2019 sales records for the XC40 will help Volvo to achieve the 700.000 mark.

https://www.media.volvocars.com/glob.../sales-volumes

[Quacker]

Originally Posted by jonnyu

Volvo has sold more than 600.000 cars worldwide for the first time ever.
Sales were led by the new XC60 that had a 387% increase.
I bet that the 2019 sales records for the XC40 will help Volvo to achieve the 700.000 mark.

https://www.media.volvocars.com/glob.../sales-volumes

There’s actually remarkably little difference in XC60 unit sales between the two years if you add up the totals for old and current models.
387% goes to prove that there are indeed lies, damned lies, and statistics at the very top.

[RobQuads]

Don't forget the 78,887.5 % increase in sales of XC40s too ... perfect example of some silly stats.

12% gain is not bad for the market vs VW who did around 2/3% more but then they suffered the most

[I Feel Old]

Originally Posted by Quacker

...387% goes to prove that there are indeed lies, damned lies, and statistics at the very top.

How come?
It's merely reporting the facts of the sales of both models. There's no attempt to hide anything, or that there was a changeover from one model to another. It's all there for all to be seen.

To read lies and damn lies in to that confuses me.

[Wizzpop]

Some of the percentages are meaningless. The XC40 for instance
Year to Date Dec 18 75,828 Year to date Dec 17 96 78,887.5 % compared to the V60 11
Year to Date Dec 18 19,177 Year to date Dec 17 0 100.0 %

Both the XC40 and V60 11 are new models, so presenting the very high percentage increase for the XC40 is nonsense.

[RobQuads]

Originally Posted by I Feel Old

How come?
It's merely reporting the facts of the sales of both models. There's no attempt to hide anything, or that there was a changeover from one model to another. It's all there for all to be seen.

The way it was phased IMO made it sounds like the XC60 was a great success BUT the stats alone don't prove that as they are virtually meaningless. I bet 75% of cars that are released in September will have a 300/400/500/600% sale increase from release year to the following year. It doesn't really give any indication as to whether its any good. It could actually be down on the model it releases.

A stat like 21% increase in sales over the previous model might be a better suited but even that again can cover up as previous model sales often drop off the cliff because people know the new model is coming.

Any thats why stats can be used to show anything you like

[I Feel Old]

Ah, I see. The gripe is with the thread title and not Volvo publishing stats that are intended to be misleading.

Gotcha.

[Quacker]

Originally Posted by I Feel Old

How come?
It's merely reporting the facts of the sales of both models. There's no attempt to hide anything, or that there was a changeover from one model to another. It's all there for all to be seen.

To read lies and damn lies in to that confuses me.

Then you are easily confused. Not my problem.
There has not been a very significant increase in XC60 sales. The figure quoted is a red herring. A meaningless figure not worth quoting but in itself misleading.

[jonnyu]

Not sure why this number is misleading and it's actually correct.
People are mixing the sales from all XC60s and the table is explicitly identifiying the XC60 II with a sales increase of 387%.
This number is easy to explain: in percentage, if you look at the sales of 2017, they were extremely low, comparing to sales of 2018 due to the following factors:
• the car was actually unveiled in March 2017 and if you take in consideration the order overhead, you have the first sales numbers in April/May.
• The car was launched in Europe in Q2 2017. In US and Chinese markets, where the sales actually boomed, the car was launched later on.
• 2018 was the first year where the sales were tracked worldwide for this model
So why the enormous surprise with the figure 387% since this is a percentage relative to the sales of 2017…

[I Feel Old]

Exactly jonnyu, people are reading Volvo's accurate published figures, putting their own interpretation on it and making 2 + 2 = 123.

The thread title is rather misleading, Volvo's figures are honest and accurate and not intended to do anything other than convey that information. That some choose to make their own assumptions and then call foul is a little bizarre.

Originally Posted by Quacker

Not my problem.

Indeed Quacker, your problem seems to be in understanding the purpose of the figures.

Originally Posted by Quacker

There has not been a very significant increase in XC60 sales.

Volvo doesn't claim there has been, you falsely assert that Volvo makes that claim. The error and misunderstanding is all yours, not Volvo's!