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Adjustable steering force - Was this part of a pack?

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Old Dec 2nd, 2020, 23:20   #1
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Hi all,

My manual states "Adjustable steering force" was an option/accessory, however was this option a specific option you could buy or was it part of a pack?

The "Active chassis - Four C" seems related but again could have been a completely separate option or included in a pack.

Anybody got either of these options and could feedback on their effectiveness/usefulness?
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Sorry, ignore this post, I've put it in the wrong section!

I'll post again in the correct place.
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If you are referring to a V60, then yes, you are in the wrong section.

While the subject is up, I can add that when I bought my XC70 in 2011 (MY 2012), then both progressive steering assist and 4C were separate options. Not included in any trim level (Kinetic, Momentum or Summum in Sweden), nor in any technology package or similar.

I did order the progressive/adjustable steering. Glad I did, it's much better than the 2016 we also have, but without that.
I did not get the 4C, as I wanted Nivomat, and they were mutually exclusive.
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If you are referring to a V60, then yes, you are in the wrong section.

While the subject is up, I can add that when I bought my XC70 in 2011 (MY 2012), then both progressive steering assist and 4C were separate options. Not included in any trim level (Kinetic, Momentum or Summum in Sweden), nor in any technology package or similar.

I did order the progressive/adjustable steering. Glad I did, it's much better than the 2016 we also have, but without that.
I did not get the 4C, as I wanted Nivomat, and they were mutually exclusive.
Do you remember if it cost a lot for the option?

Nivomat? Never heard of that one, what is it?

Seems strange that it wouldn't come as standard with at least one of the packs.

Do you know if newer models of Volvo come with these two as standard nowadays?
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I think the cost for the progressive power steering was about SEK 3000.

Nivomat is self-levelling rear suspension. Makes the ride height load independent.

I'm not fully up to speed on the trim level of the most recent models. But it's different in different countries anyway.
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I think the cost for the progressive power steering was about SEK 3000.

Nivomat is self-levelling rear suspension. Makes the ride height load independent.

I'm not fully up to speed on the trim level of the most recent models. But it's different in different countries anyway.
Odd, I would have thought the 4C and Nivomat would have complimented each other and be part of the same package. Clearly not.
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Odd, I would have thought the 4C and Nivomat would have complimented each other and be part of the same package. Clearly not.
The 4C shocks are electrically controlled while the Nivomats are mechanically self adjusting reacting to the weight on the rear axle. They are totally different pieces of kit and do different things in response to different inputs. You can't fit both at the same time and Volvo decided not to make the complicated version that would have been necessary to have both functions, especially as most owners do not tow things or carry maximum weight loads with which the Nivomats are designed to deal. I suspect that many owners don't need the 4C either as once a setting has been selected, the driver usually forgets to change it for months!
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Good luck finding an XC70 in Sweden without the towing hitch.

They do of course exist, but you have to look for quite a while.

On the other hand, not at all difficult to spot an XC70 in front of a caravan, horse trailer och other stuff you can tow.
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The 4C shocks are electrically controlled while the Nivomats are mechanically self adjusting reacting to the weight on the rear axle. They are totally different pieces of kit and do different things in response to different inputs. You can't fit both at the same time and Volvo decided not to make the complicated version that would have been necessary to have both functions, especially as most owners do not tow things or carry maximum weight loads with which the Nivomats are designed to deal. I suspect that many owners don't need the 4C either as once a setting has been selected, the driver usually forgets to change it for months!
I suppose you're right, what's the first thing people do when there's mode selections of Eco, Normal or Sport . . . select Sport and never change it!

I wonder if the Cross Country came with 4C as standard as they have hill descent control + off-road/AWD capability? I'm positive the D6 Hybrid comes with it as standard.
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No, the pretty expensive 4C system wasn't standard except for in a few high performance models. Not in the Cross Country, regardless of model.

Hill Descent Control, on the other hand, was standard in XC models with AWD. The did sell FWD XC70 and AWD V70, but they didn't have HDC.

HDC is perfect also for reversing with a trailer, since it allows for more precise control of the throttle. It's like a low gear, but electronic.
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