Other XC90 Problem: XC90 D5 Geartronic - Hesitation/delay in pulling away...

[Curly59]

Hi, Yes have the delay issue..... XC90 2010 Active D5 Geartronic.

I see the issue with std 185 mapping and Shark 220 map.

I think most can be put down to
1 Heavy Car.
2.Big turbo
3.Geartronic.

As I understand it (many on here better qualified to comment), the gearbox controlling software adapts to your driving, so when I've been pottering around the seems more emphasis on the lag, you are pottering so the gearbox follows. then when you need the quick turn of speed, it takes it time do it its thing!
If I do a good run over the peak district with mainly A-B roads working the box HARD, when I get back into the urban sprawl it feels sharper in the changes.
It's not massive just feels sharper (for a while) until it adapts back again.

I find using manual sport is difficult as 1st is very short and find myself moving to second within a few yards.

Saying that I think 1 & 2 above are the biggest factors, which cant be overcome with a software changes.

Still a great car compared to others!! especially with the remapping

[RoyMacDonald]

Originally Posted by Curly59

Hi, Yes have the delay issue..... XC90 2010 Active D5 Geartronic.

I see the issue with std 185 mapping and Shark 220 map.

I think most can be put down to
1 Heavy Car.
2.Big turbo
3.Geartronic.

As I understand it (many on here better qualified to comment), the gearbox controlling software adapts to your driving, so when I've been pottering around the seems more emphasis on the lag, you are pottering so the gearbox follows. then when you need the quick turn of speed, it takes it time do it its thing!
If I do a good run over the peak district with mainly A-B roads working the box HARD, when I get back into the urban sprawl it feels sharper in the changes.
It's not massive just feels sharper (for a while) until it adapts back again.

I find using manual sport is difficult as 1st is very short and find myself moving to second within a few yards.

Saying that I think 1 & 2 above are the biggest factors, which cant be overcome with a software changes.

Still a great car compared to others!! especially with the remapping

My gearbox has a Sport auto mode. I think yours will as well.

[rich1068]

Sport Auto? Nothing sporty on an XC90 Roy

[RoyMacDonald]

Originally Posted by rich1068

Sport Auto? Nothing sporty on an XC90 Roy

I assumed all the 6 speed autoboxes had it like my XC60 does? My 5 speed 03XC90 doesn't but it doesn't need it.

[Tannaton]

Originally Posted by Curly59

If I do a good run over the peak district with mainly A-B roads working the box HARD, when I get back into the urban sprawl it feels sharper in the changes.
It's not massive just feels sharper (for a while) until it adapts back again.

I get what you are saying here - the best mine has ever run was after I'd been towing 1.5 tons of trailer and gravel...

[mick0905]

Hi, I'm new to the forum and joined to search/ask about precisely this issue. I've just bought an 05 D5 (126k miles and FSH) and not having driven an auto for about 15 years was wondering if the take-off was "normal" or I'd bought a duffer.

I'd say the take off from standstill feels like the odd occasion when I've accidenatly tried to set off in a manual car in third gear and attempted to get away with it by applying lots of revs and slipping the clutch, lots of revs but not much motion. Is this the behaviour everyone else is talking about? I can set off ok(ish) if I floor it but with lots of wheelspin and attracting the wrong sort of attention.

I have noticed that the "winter mode" button doesn't appear to be working on my car so I'd assumed it was stuck in winter mode and was setting off in a higher gear than normal but having read this thread all the way through I'm no longer convinced this is the case. Sorry for replying to a 6 year old thread but better than starting a new one with a question that already looks to have been asked.

[Clan]

Originally Posted by mick0905

Hi, I'm new to the forum and joined to search/ask about precisely this issue. I've just bought an 05 D5 (126k miles and FSH) and not having driven an auto for about 15 years was wondering if the take-off was "normal" or I'd bought a duffer.

I'd say the take off from standstill feels like the odd occasion when I've accidenatly tried to set off in a manual car in third gear and attempted to get away with it by applying lots of revs and slipping the clutch, lots of revs but not much motion. Is this the behaviour everyone else is talking about? I can set off ok(ish) if I floor it but with lots of wheelspin and attracting the wrong sort of attention.

I have noticed that the "winter mode" button doesn't appear to be working on my car so I'd assumed it was stuck in winter mode and was setting off in a higher gear than normal but having read this thread all the way through I'm no longer convinced this is the case. Sorry for replying to a 6 year old thread but better than starting a new one with a question that already looks to have been asked.

If you mean you have to apply full throttle at take off and not a lot happens , i would say you have a problem with the turbo control valve or it's vacuum supply ..
It also sounds as if you need a new angle gear connecting sleeve if you get loads of wheel spin on an AWD car .

[mick0905]

Originally Posted by Clan

If you mean you have to apply full throttle at take off and not a lot happens , i would say you have a problem with the turbo control valve or it's vacuum supply ..
It also sounds as if you need a new angle gear connecting sleeve if you get loads of wheel spin on an AWD car .

It's more of a lag as others in the thread have said. The revs pick up ok but not much happens instantly at the wheels. It goes but it almost feels like the engine and drivetrain are communicating by postal service. I'm getting used to it but in common with other posters in the thread I've gone to set off from junctions and almost crawled out into the road then been forced to use the kickdown to take evasive action.

[Ducklakeview]

Originally Posted by mick0905

I can set off ok(ish) if I floor it but with lots of wheelspin and attracting the wrong sort of attention.

I have noticed that the "winter mode" button doesn't appear to be working on my car so I'd assumed it was stuck in winter mode and was setting off in a higher gear than normal but having read this thread all the way through I'm no longer convinced this is the case..

If the car was in "Winter" mode, you would have a "W" instead of a "D" in the gear position indicator display, also, if you move the shifter across to manual, it would be in 3rd and not 1st if it was in Winter mode. Wheelspin is something you shouldn't be getting at all, unless you are taking off on sheet ice.. Get underneath and see if you can rotate the propshaft by hand, my guess is you will be able to, in which case your splined sleeve has probably failed (common problem £300 at indy, £100 parts DIY)

Mike

[galloot633]

Originally Posted by mick0905

It's more of a lag as others in the thread have said. The revs pick up ok but not much happens instantly at the wheels. It goes but it almost feels like the engine and drivetrain are communicating by postal service. I'm getting used to it but in common with other posters in the thread I've gone to set off from junctions and almost crawled out into the road then been forced to use the kickdown to take evasive action.

Spot on description ! Until you've experienced the problem its hard for members without out it to comprehend, its my only gripe with the car, but I'm wondering if curly may have something, I drive really sedately , but whenever the garage has given it a test run it comes back much sharper
Dave