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Old Dec 12th, 2020, 10:52   #1
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I have been trying to gather information about this bush, which historically has proven to be a weak point. I would like to be prepared for replacement, as time statically would suggest failure is just around the corner, despite showing no signs ( to me) of failure - no squeaks or other noise. Despite several thread on here, I'm left with more questions than answers, as the more I find out the less I find I know...

1) There has been a design change of the bush, mine has it but did this solve the problem of corrosion/lamination? I have been unable to find failures in cars registered after circa 2013. So is that a "Yes"?
2) The removal tools ( draper+ sealey) refer to fitting only upto 2012/3 vehicles , not mine. Did the design change make these tools unsuitable for 2013+ vehicles, or is this merely a facelift demarkation by the tool manufacturers ??
3) Cheaper removal tools are available on Ebay - for 50% of the Draper/Sealey tool. Anyone used these tools and how did they perform?. Seen several utube videos of these tools in operation and it all looks very simple, but is it.?
The bush itself - some suggest the Mondeo bush ( cheaper) can be used as its the same as Volvo, anyone actually used the Ford bush?
Anyone used polybushing?

Lots of questions I know, but this bush from what I read on this site, and else where is the P3 Achilles heal. It would be nice to gather all the information about this bushing at one point for future reference???

2015 V70 D5 Manual.


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Following this thread.
Yes I believe the bush was redesigned at some point.
I changed the bushes on my 2011 V70 a few months back using the Sealey tool and Lemforder bushes. The bushes were original with 118,000 miles & completely in bits.
Not easy on the driveway, took longer than I expected, the tool is heavy and tricky to push bushes in square. The trick is to pull the arm down as low as possible to get good access to the arm.
Be interested in any feedback on the poly bushes, I did consider but couldn't find much feedback on them.
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Thanks for your reply. I thought this would have been a fairly common repair - like the drop links or wishbones on P2's. but with only one response in over 100+viewings these bush failures aren't as common as I thought. Interested to hear tool is heavy and fitting of bushes is not as quick as you thought. I have seen a couple of utube videos and it looks very simple and quick. The tool plus bushes cost is not too far away from what Volvo or an indi might charge. The real savings would come if you had to do the job a 2nd time, which if you used poly bushes could be never.

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Thanks for your reply. I thought this would have been a fairly common repair - like the drop links or wishbones on P2's. but with only one response in over 100+viewings these bush failures aren't as common as I thought. Interested to hear tool is heavy and fitting of bushes is not as quick as you thought. I have seen a couple of utube videos and it looks very simple and quick. The tool plus bushes cost is not too far away from what Volvo or an indi might charge. The real savings would come if you had to do the job a 2nd time, which if you used poly bushes could be never.

Cheers Bob.
I've had my rear trailing arm bushes replaced on my S80 (2007 plate) by a local indi coming up on two years ago. I did a bit of research on replacement & found out that a special tool was required. Being honest, it wasn't something that I was particularly interested in buying & it wasn't a job I was interested in doing either! The mechanic that did the work on my car told me that it was a right pain in the backside to remove/replace mine & he was doing it off a ramp!

On that note, my Dad has a V70 estate (57 plate) with 157k on it & the rear trailing arm bushes are starting to perish slightly on his car too... It was MOT'd at the same indi that did the work on mine. There's no excessive movement or noise yet, but I was told when collecting the car on my Dad's behalf that they won't last forever & will need replacing at some point. When the time comes, I'll let the garage replace them.

Just one last thing to note, you'll need to get an alignment after getting the rear trailing arm bushes replaced.
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Just one last thing to note, you'll need to get an alignment after getting the rear trailing arm bushes replaced.
Oh! never thought of that - better get one organized when lock down is over, as I never got one when I changed a rear spring recently. Thought both items were "bolts out - bolts back in same places" so alignment unnecessary items.


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There's adjustment at the point the trailing arm bushes bolt onto the floor pan.
No adjustment should be needed just changing a rear spring, although you might get it checked as a precaution.
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Oh! never thought of that - better get one organized when lock down is over, as I never got one when I changed a rear spring recently. Thought both items were "bolts out - bolts back in same places" so alignment unnecessary items.


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I was advised that the car needs to be aligned after replacing the rear trailing arms by the independent Volvo garage that did the work.

As you've just replaced a spring so far & not the trailing arms, then no alignment will be needed.
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Out of interest, this was mentioned by my garage the last time they serviced the car as a future item to deal with. For a garage (I am not able to do this) to replace the rear trailing arm bushes, what have people been quoted/paid?
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Out of interest, this was mentioned by my garage the last time they serviced the car as a future item to deal with. For a garage (I am not able to do this) to replace the rear trailing arm bushes, what have people been quoted/paid?
I paid £300 to have the rear trailing arm bushes replaced at an independent Volvo garage, plus £85 for an alignment afterwards.

At a main dealer, it could cost more.
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I paid £300 to have the rear trailing arm bushes replaced at an independent Volvo garage, plus £85 for an alignment afterwards.

At a main dealer, it could cost more.
The bush removal tool is £400+ from sealey so no incentive to buy one. There are cheaper versions available but without recommendation I'd personally steer clear.

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