4wd not working.

[gazmcd]

It seems my car is only front wheel drive at the moment (front wheels spinning in snow). The cars a 54 plate auto d5 77k mile.

I've read it could need a new angle gear/ transfer box or just the metal sleeve as the teeth can wear any.

Any one have any ideas of the costs of these fixes? Is it something an normal garage would fix or would I need a volvo specialist. Theres a volvo franchise dealer near me but no volvo indies, i'm in north manchester.

Also are there refurb angle gears available or would it be new parts only.

Thanks

[tdi]

You should only need a new collar sleeve but you won't know for sure until the old one has been removed and you can see the teeth on the angle gear itself.
It not too bad a job . I did mine on my s60r which has the same setup. It took me about 6 hours and that was on axle stands . A decent garage should take about 3 or so hours I would imagine.

[ianu]

A reputable indie should be able to sort this for you. Ask if they have ever done one before, it is quite a major job tbh and requires some knowledge of the set up. Book time is about 8 hours iirc. 3 hours is way too optimistic in my opinion and I'd be cautious of anyone who reckons they can do it in this time. My indie had the car over 2 days (twice :-) )
Best case, it's just the sleeve - but you wont know until they've managed to separate the sleeve from the shaft.
There is no point putting a new sleeve on a knackered shaft, you'll be doing the job again depending how long you keep the vehicle especially if it's been done before.
If you've had the vehicle a while and this is the first time you've noticed it (normally you notice it pulling out of junctions in the wet as it'll spin the front wheel) hopefully the shaft will be OK enough to just do the sleeve. If it's been like it a while and taken the shaft with it, it's a replacement bevel gear assembly too. These are only available exchange from Volvo.
If you are doing it yourself, there are some excellent guides on here if you search for them - good luck.
If not, budget minimum £800 at an indie, be prepared for £1500 if the Bevel gear is toast.
While it's apart, consider anything else that could be done at the same time. For the sake of a 100 quid part or less (or more if it's a manual), you'll save the 6+ hours labour to take it all apart again.

Cheers
Ian.

[owenfackrell]

If it is a manual and you have not had it done I would get the clutch and space cyclinfer done as you half way there anyway.

[tdi]

Originally Posted by ianu

A reputable indie should be able to sort this for you. Ask if they have ever done one before, it is quite a major job tbh and requires some knowledge of the set up. Book time is about 8 hours iirc. 3 hours is way too optimistic in my opinion and I'd be cautious of anyone who reckons they can do it in this time. My indie had the car over 2 days (twice :-) )
Best case, it's just the sleeve - but you wont know until they've managed to separate the sleeve from the shaft.
There is no point putting a new sleeve on a knackered shaft, you'll be doing the job again depending how long you keep the vehicle especially if it's been done before.
If you've had the vehicle a while and this is the first time you've noticed it (normally you notice it pulling out of junctions in the wet as it'll spin the front wheel) hopefully the shaft will be OK enough to just do the sleeve. If it's been like it a while and taken the shaft with it, it's a replacement bevel gear assembly too. These are only available exchange from Volvo.
If you are doing it yourself, there are some excellent guides on here if you search for them - good luck.
If not, budget minimum £800 at an indie, be prepared for £1500 if the Bevel gear is toast.
While it's apart, consider anything else that could be done at the same time. For the sake of a 100 quid part or less (or more if it's a manual), you'll save the 6+ hours labour to take it all apart again.

Cheers
Ian.

I have actually done this job myself. It's not as bad as people make out. I estimated 3 hours because it took me hours and that was on the floor with the car on axle stands . On a 4 post lift with air tools I could do it in half the time.
The hardest part is separating the collar from the angle gear itself.

[gazmcd]

Thanks for the reply's. Hopefully its just the sleeve i'll ring round try and find a garage with some experience of this problem and go from there.

[ianu]

Originally Posted by tdi

I have actually done this job myself. It's not as bad as people make out. I estimated 3 hours because it took me hours and that was on the floor with the car on axle stands . On a 4 post lift with air tools I could do it in half the time.
The hardest part is separating the collar from the angle gear itself.

Wow - well done. I take my hat off to you and stand corrected. You're a braver man than me :-)
Cheers
Ian.

[tdi]

Honestly it's not as bad as people make out. Thank you for your kind compliments but no need . All that's needed is determination and the fact parts cost around £150 and you save a fortune !
The collar sleeve is designed to be the weakest part in the whole set up.
When my collar gear failed I could feel a slight tugging sensation through the steering when reversing into my drive.
Sometimes they fail with a bang . A lot of the time people have no idea until they really need awd and realise they don't have it any longer.
I did mine soon after I realised my collar gear had failed as not to inflict any wear on the angle gear itself.
The teeth on the collar were almost non existent but the teeth on the angle gear were perfect.

[oragex]

Originally Posted by tdi

I have actually done this job myself. It's not as bad as people make out. I estimated 3 hours because it took me hours and that was on the floor with the car on axle stands . On a 4 post lift with air tools I could do it in half the time.
The hardest part is separating the collar from the angle gear itself.

Most people say it's a very hard job. You may have better skills but for most this is a tough job not to mention as noted above, it takes skills and knowledge. So it helps not to give the wrong impression.

There are several videos on Youtube on this repair, some of them show invaluable tips on removing the collar for example

[tdi]

I'm not saying it's an easy job far from it . It's just not as scary as you might of thought that's all. A decent tool kit and stands and patience and determination it's possible.
Of course most people are not prepared to undertake this job and I completely understand. For those that are then it's possible on your drive at home. That's all I'm saying.