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Old Oct 19th, 2020, 13:00   #11
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I agree, Alan. And it is important to remember that it is a 40 year old car. On that alone it is not only a rare survivor but also indicative of just how far rust resistance has advanced in (relatively) recent years.

All ferrous metal will, ultimately, rust. The length of time before it's onset and severity will depend upon three things: i) the original quality of the steel, ii) the degree of rust-proofing and quality of finish, and iii) the extent of subsequent preventative maintenance. Factors i and ii are in the control of the maker (Volvo latterly made much of their deservedly good reputation for this in their marketing), factor iii is in the hands of the owner.

My own experience of early 2-series cars was mixed. Our '75 (N) rusted very badly - both front wings perforated along the tops at 9 - 10 years. I suspect that this was due in part to inferior steel and in part to the lack of wheel arch protectors. Our '78 (S) displayed no rust when we sold it at 18 years.

I bought my first car in 1965. It was a 15 (not 40) year old Ford. Outwardly tidy, it was full of filler, but as the car had a chassis frame, the bodywork was neither structural nor stressed, so a degree of superficial rust did not greatly matter. I paid £10 for the car, which would be around £200 today.

This was at a time when 30 - 40 year old cars such as the Austin 7 were either being given away or changing hands for around a fiver! Big, old cars were nigh on impossible to sell - I know of one 1930 Humber that rotted in a field because no-one wanted it. In relative terms, my first Ford, which was unarguably very much an 'old banger' is now five years younger than my present V70 - which most certainly is not!

Coming back to the subject of this thread, I agree with you that the rust is almost certainly well-advanced; whether the car is beyond saving only an in-depth inspection (as has already been suggested) would reveal. On the plus side, it is complete, remarkably original, and possessed of a decent interior. If I wanted a 244 and was confident in my abilities and resources to make good the rust (or knew of a good and trusted body-shop) I would consider it not an unworthy project.

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That was a good piece John. You are so right about older cars lacking much in the way of rust protection: my first sort of smart car (following a couple of really cheap minis) was a 5 year old Fiat 128 estate in 1979 (I'd have been 18 and at university in Bristol). Over the next 3 years it just dissolved and just about made it to Sandhurst at the start of my Army career. I remember the steering suddenly becoming light a few weeks after, and taking it to a mechanic/welder mate who couldn't find enough metal to re-attach the steering rack to. The car would have been 8 years old then - I probably got £50 for it from the scrap yard.

That was not all that unusual in the 1970s (although Fiat was amongst the worst for rust). Today cars hardly seem to rust at all, but are killed off by failing electronics and the high cost of labour that means almost no domestic machines are worth fixing.

You are right about Volvos from that era being something of an exception, and hence there are still a number of the cars we enjoy roaming the roads.

I think the OP's car (the one he has just sold) could be saved as I said somewhere above, but I doubt that would make economic sense if the new buyer was not able to do the work him/herself. Paying a workshop and paint sprayer to have the work done might cost some thousands, and the rest of the car just isn't good enough to make it worth perhaps £5,000.

On the other hand the car seemed to have a good interior (must be worth £500), dash and instruments (another £250), wheels (£150), engine, (£300), auto box (£250), brakes (maybe £200), suspension (perhaps £150) an a myriad of panels and bits and pieces taking it to well over £2000. I'd venture that would be a better end for the car (keeping many other 240s on the road for decades) than the banger derby.

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