Which Phase

pacman67 · Feb 28th, 2011, 16:41

As some may know i bought a 99 V40 T4 recently. My Question is which phase is she. She has black badge, and dealer says she is a 98 which was registered march 99. Does have the twin headlights. What are the differences? I do know later had VVT, and i heard early had a type of VVT.

gatos · Feb 28th, 2011, 16:49

Phase 1.5 is a grey area in X40s. It looks most likely that it is a Phase 1 and probably the previous owner chnged the front lights. If the dealer said for sure it is a 1998 model then it is a phase 1 for sure. It might have been a phase 1.5 if it was late 1999. Simple things to distinguish between P1 and P2 are the front headlights (clear vs well, ermm crappy old foggy weaky ones

), the sidelights on the bumpers(P2 are bigger than P1) and the centre console of the car.

There are many other things that are different between P1 and P2 hidden under the car.

My guess would be it is a P1 but someone else might have a better opinion

sebaveh · Feb 28th, 2011, 16:59

P1,5 has CEM under light switch, and P1 doesn't.

pacman67 · Feb 28th, 2011, 17:02

Interesting. I had a P1 V40 diesel, and i think the dash was different, if i remember the recirculate was a flip lever in the middle of the vents. The lights, appear to be original as i cant see any evidence of wiring chop etc, unless p1 and 1.5 had the same connector?

gatos · Feb 28th, 2011, 17:12

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Originally Posted by pacman67

Interesting. I had a P1 V40 diesel, and i think the dash was different, if i remember the recirculate was a flip lever in the middle of the vents. The lights, appear to be original as i cant see any evidence of wiring chop etc, unless p1 and 1.5 had the same connector?

Look at the project Baffler did where he converted a lot of his P1 into a P2. A quick photo of the interior would also help

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Originally Posted by sebaveh

P1,5 has CEM under light switch, and P1 doesn't.

Oh yes, very good point. I didnt think of that. The CEM is fairly easy to find on the drivers footwell. That could be a nice way to determine what you have

T4Rick · Feb 28th, 2011, 17:13

Im a 98 model and mine is a phase 1

-chris- · Feb 28th, 2011, 17:19

I think phase 1 T4's all had double headlights..

pacman67 · Feb 28th, 2011, 17:23

Thanks guys, i,ll have a look when i can ( car is in storage ).

andy_d · Feb 28th, 2011, 17:40

p1 here too, 98 is deffo p1.
mod year 00 (sold in 99) is when p1.5 happened.
mod year 98 would be p1 99.99% sure on that.

all t4's came with the twin lights afaik ,

Dandle · Feb 28th, 2011, 20:41

Thats a phase 1, the engine cover under the bonnet gives it away. The phase 1.5 had a cover the same as the phase 2 T4s but with a slightly different 1.9t motor. Phase 1.5 was from about Aug/Sept 99 build onwards. T4s always came with twin headlights.

Feb 28th, 2011, 17:02	#4
pacman67 VOC Member Last Online: Dec 6th, 2023 14:09 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Richmond N Yorks	Interesting. I had a P1 V40 diesel, and i think the dash was different, if i remember the recirculate was a flip lever in the middle of the vents. The lights, appear to be original as i cant see any evidence of wiring chop etc, unless p1 and 1.5 had the same connector? __________________ Regards, pacman67 previously held: V40 TD & S40 2ltr P1,V40 P2 sport lux, V70 XC P1, XC70 P2, V70 D5 P2 and P3, V40 T4,V70R, C30 R Design. currently held: V70 P3 D5 SE LUX, XC90 MK2 Inscription Pro.

Feb 28th, 2011, 17:23	#8
pacman67 VOC Member Last Online: Dec 6th, 2023 14:09 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Richmond N Yorks	Thanks guys, i,ll have a look when i can ( car is in storage ). __________________ Regards, pacman67 previously held: V40 TD & S40 2ltr P1,V40 P2 sport lux, V70 XC P1, XC70 P2, V70 D5 P2 and P3, V40 T4,V70R, C30 R Design. currently held: V70 P3 D5 SE LUX, XC90 MK2 Inscription Pro.

Feb 28th, 2011, 17:40	#9
andy_d Premier Member Last Online: Apr 24th, 2024 21:26 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: birmingham	p1 here too, 98 is deffo p1. mod year 00 (sold in 99) is when p1.5 happened. mod year 98 would be p1 99.99% sure on that. all t4's came with the twin lights afaik , __________________ 940s - 2l / 92 < gone&missed s401.8 xs auto <gone >V50 2.4SE Geartronic aka "the new money pit" "skyship007 has now been successfully added to your ignore list. "."

Feb 28th, 2011, 16:49	#2
gatos Premier Member Last Online: Nov 15th, 2022 21:34 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: London / Essex	Phase 1.5 is a grey area in X40s. It looks most likely that it is a Phase 1 and probably the previous owner chnged the front lights. If the dealer said for sure it is a 1998 model then it is a phase 1 for sure. It might have been a phase 1.5 if it was late 1999. Simple things to distinguish between P1 and P2 are the front headlights (clear vs well, ermm crappy old foggy weaky ones ), the sidelights on the bumpers(P2 are bigger than P1) and the centre console of the car. There are many other things that are different between P1 and P2 hidden under the car. My guess would be it is a P1 but someone else might have a better opinion

Feb 28th, 2011, 16:59	#3
sebaveh Winegrover Last Online: Jul 17th, 2019 11:08 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Slovenska Bistrica	P1,5 has CEM under light switch, and P1 doesn't.

Feb 28th, 2011, 17:13	#6
T4Rick Premier Member Last Online: Oct 11th, 2012 08:49 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: manchester	Im a 98 model and mine is a phase 1

Feb 28th, 2011, 17:19	#7
-chris- Senior Member Last Online: Mar 26th, 2024 19:58 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: devon	I think phase 1 T4's all had double headlights..

Feb 28th, 2011, 20:41	#10
Dandle Master Member Last Online: Dec 29th, 2013 22:39 Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ashford	Thats a phase 1, the engine cover under the bonnet gives it away. The phase 1.5 had a cover the same as the phase 2 T4s but with a slightly different 1.9t motor. Phase 1.5 was from about Aug/Sept 99 build onwards. T4s always came with twin headlights.

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