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Old May 19th, 2019, 07:25   #11
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I'd wager that the Brembo discs/EBC Yellowstuff pads combo I mentioned previously would out-perform the genuine Volvo stuff, but the longevity wouldn't be as good.
If longevity is a measure of performance then your statement is a contradiction.

What I am saying is that many many factors make up "performance" and not all of them can be measured in a day or a week by a normal driver at normal speeds on normal roads in a country with a moderate climate.

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Can you test your brakes in extreme conditions like -40C or +50C, or at extreme speeds like 240 kmph.

Volvo make their brakes to perform in such conditions.

I personally have experienced -20C and around 180kmph, so such extremes are closer than you think. But they are not everyday. But they are an important part of brake material selection and testing.
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Old May 19th, 2019, 22:07   #12
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Brembo discs and bendix pads fitted.... Work a treat and much better than the crap that was fitted. Don't see why genuine is always better? Has there been a test? I best some people say genuine Volvo ect but don't batter an eyelid paying for part worn tyres or budgets.

Btw not a dig at you.....
You havent said what 'crap' was fitted before?
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Old May 20th, 2019, 06:20   #13
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You havent said what 'crap' was fitted before?
Something is making me say delpie for some reason but couldn't see any stamps ect on them... The never had much wear as they were only fitted before we got the car last year and the discs were pitted bad and pads to suit.
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If longevity is a measure of performance then your statement is a contradiction.
Not when it comes to brake pads. The better the stopping power, the faster the pads wear. High friction / high performance pads wear quicker. Low friction / low performance pads last longer. That's just a fact.

Regardless, I wouldn't recommend brake parts if I didn't have extensive personal experience with them. Plain Brembo discs with EBC Yellowstuff pads is a proven combination that I, and many others, have had excellent results with. Works great from cold and throughout the heat range, with far less fade than factory stuff. Pads wear quicker than factory but that's the trade-off.

I have personal experience, like for like comparisons, along the same routes, with a range of cars (mostly Saab and Volvo) and driving conditions. I used to regularly drive from Norway through Sweden, Germany, etc to Calais and across to the UK and back again. On my old 375bhp Saab I had the opportunity to do comparisons between many different brake setups on all reasonable environmental/temperature conditions and up to 150mph on the Autobahn. For factory spec/size parts, Brembo/EBC Yellowstuff combo was best, better than factory Saab parts. Only thing I found that was better was to actually upgrade to a bigger brake setup altogether. With my current XC90, I also tried the EBC Yellowstuff and had great results, but the pads wore fairly quickly with such a big heavy car. As it's not a performance oriented car, and brake fad is rare, I have recently fitted all new Volvo discs/pads all around and am very pleased with that. HOWEVER, the brakes are not quite as good from cold and do fade more easily if driving hard.
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Not when it comes to brake pads. The better the stopping power, the faster the pads wear. High friction / high performance pads wear quicker. Low friction / low performance pads last longer. That's just a fact.

Regardless, I wouldn't recommend brake parts if I didn't have extensive personal experience with them. Plain Brembo discs with EBC Yellowstuff pads is a proven combination that I, and many others, have had excellent results with. Works great from cold and throughout the heat range, with far less fade than factory stuff. Pads wear quicker than factory but that's the trade-off.

I have personal experience, like for like comparisons, along the same routes, with a range of cars (mostly Saab and Volvo) and driving conditions. I used to regularly drive from Norway through Sweden, Germany, etc to Calais and across to the UK and back again. On my old 375bhp Saab I had the opportunity to do comparisons between many different brake setups on all reasonable environmental/temperature conditions and up to 150mph on the Autobahn. For factory spec/size parts, Brembo/EBC Yellowstuff combo was best, better than factory Saab parts. Only thing I found that was better was to actually upgrade to a bigger brake setup altogether. With my current XC90, I also tried the EBC Yellowstuff and had great results, but the pads wore fairly quickly with such a big heavy car. As it's not a performance oriented car, and brake fad is rare, I have recently fitted all new Volvo discs/pads all around and am very pleased with that. HOWEVER, the brakes are not quite as good from cold and do fade more easily if driving hard.
I agree. I had mahoosive brembo disks (standard) and ran yellow stuff pads on all my Audi RS4's. Amazing stopping power, no squeakage and a lot longer before signs of fade. OEM pads were utter pants and known to be good for pootling around town, but not for anything more spirited.

The only downside to the softer pads are the frequency you need to change them and the amount brake dust they leave all over the clean wheels

8 pot callipers on the front helped as well!!
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On the Brembo vs Volvo debate, don't Polestar use Brembo on their cars?
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