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1961 Volvo PV544 in Holland

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Old Sep 2nd, 2019, 10:05   #701
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Old Nov 13th, 2019, 05:40   #702
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Not got back to Volvo stuff just yet but the foundation of the new workshop is taking shape.



I'm aiming to end up with an area contained within a 7.5m X 9m footprint - wall thickness is yet to be determined by budget constraints!
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While you're at this stage get a mini digger in and dig a pit. I did, and can't think how I managed without one, now.
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While you're at this stage get a mini digger in and dig a pit. I did, and can't think how I managed without one, now.
It would have been easier to have not filled the ground in first! I've just raised the level by the best part of a meter.

My reason for not wanting a pit is partly for reasons of claustrophobia and the other for a design constraint for the workshop.

Where I am living is on the edge of an earthquake zone. "The Dutch" have been extracting a low calorific gas since the 1950s which apparently is causing shallow earthquakes. (This is a bit of a sore point in this region of the Netherlands and a bit like the should you smoke / should you not smoke argument there's a lot of "discussion" - better not to mention it really)

Anyway just in case, I've come up with a plan that is a non conventional structure that I can build by myself that also would enable me to jack things back into place in the event of something going wrong.

If I could have gotten a few ISO / shipping containers onto the site I would have probably have done something like that (all the rage at the moment - building things from shipping containers!) but that too would have meant shutting a fairly busy road and getting a mega crane to move them over houses (would cost very very very very silly silly silly money here)...

...so essentially I'm building a steel structure to replicate a shipping container on top of railway ballast and railway sleepers.

It will be a no concrete structure.
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A friend of mine in Zaandam had to get some substantial piling done before he could get permission for his garage. OK it was a two story industrial unit but it shows how unstable a lot of the reclaimed land is. His house, garage and a large area around it now flattened after a buy out by a housing consortium. Financially that didn't do him any harm and he's now rebuilt his garage with lift etc into a rather nice bungalow not too many miles away.
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A friend of mine in Zaandam had to get some substantial piling done before he could get permission for his garage. OK it was a two story industrial unit but it shows how unstable a lot of the reclaimed land is. His house, garage and a large area around it now flattened after a buy out by a housing consortium. Financially that didn't do him any harm and he's now rebuilt his garage with lift etc into a rather nice bungalow not too many miles away.
The ground here is fenland but I'm not having to go down the piling route (unless I have to). I don't think the main house was built on piles...

...anyway all of the building work I'll be doing will be within the generous requirements for permission free building. For the space I have I can build on an area up to 250 square meters including existing buildings. The maximum height of a pitched roof structure is 5 meters. There are some other requirements about the positioning but all in all it is quite liberal in what you can do here.

Proper planning permission can be horrifically expensive in some regions - there are some scary stories of people asking for a dropped curb for a driveway - having to pay about 2K only to have the request denied!

Consequently I'm very keen to make sure I remain within the prescribed limits of permission free building (even been to see the local council to have my plans checked).
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Army, hope you’re well. Building a garage myself. Made me think of you, how is it going?
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Army, hope you’re well. Building a garage myself. Made me think of you, how is it going?
Struggling along as usual with the long term health issues which always seem worse in the winter months - nothing is moving as fast as I'd like.

If you're busy building (in the snow?) I for one would appreciate a photo or two as it is always good to see how others do things (part of the reason for being on a forum)

Here:- The last few months have resulted in this =>



As you can see I've limited the weight I need to lug about by designing a steel I-beam structure with spindly IPE100 rolled steel joists (RSJs). The nine meter lengths are about 85 kg a piece. That's about all I want to have to deal with as I don't want to have to change my underwear every time I need to reposition things.

In the modern (real) world machines with hydraulics would be used but that (1) costs too much money here in Holland for me to pay (2) access isn't great for big machines that can reach bigger distances

So it has been me and a trusty (left behind by the previous owners) wheel barrow shifting I-beams from the road to the back garden (~50 meters)



Once the base has been welded the upper structure will be 100 X 50 X 3 (and 100 X 100 X 3) box section.

At the moment most of the I-beams have been cut and made ready for welding. I'm about half way at the moment =>



I'm cleaning off surface rust and painting on a few coats of Zinga as I go

(Zinga is great stuff)
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Wow, that's heavy duty! I thought you'd just have some anti damp sheet, some rebar mesh and then poured concrete. Maybe the poured concrete is going over the steel matrix?
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Wow, that's heavy duty! I thought you'd just have some anti damp sheet, some rebar mesh and then poured concrete. Maybe the poured concrete is going over the steel matrix?
No no - concrete free construction (!)

I don't like concrete all that much. It is quite expensive especially when reinforced and a pain in the backside at the end of life. I reckon even in the future people will be happy to come and collect nearly three tons of steel if I / next owner don't / doesn't want it any more.

(Also) Cos I'm on the edge of an earthquake region I want something that is more like an ISO / shipping container so I can jack the thing back level in the event of the dreadful...
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