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Old Sep 7th, 2012, 18:18   #1
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Question V40 or V50 ?

Looking into V40s for a friend, who wants something with reasonable mpg and just wondering what the diesel versions of these are like? as far as i can tell the S2 V40s ended around 2003-4?. Are the diesel engines on these any good? and what sort of mpg / are people getting ?. On the next gen V50 are the diesel engines a big improvement? Are any of the petrol versions worth a look for reasonable mpg?
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Looking into V40s for a friend, who wants something with reasonable mpg and just wondering what the diesel versions of these are like? as far as i can tell the S2 V40s ended around 2003-4?. Are the diesel engines on these any good? and what sort of mpg / are people getting ?. On the next gen V50 are the diesel engines a big improvement? Are any of the petrol versions worth a look for reasonable mpg?
I once hired a V50 from the Volvo dealer when the 960 was in for a couple of days and the turbo diesel engine may be a good improvement over the earlier ones in the V40 but as for the actual car the enigne was in it was terrible but that is my opinion only.
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Looking into V40s for a friend, who wants something with reasonable mpg and just wondering what the diesel versions of these are like? as far as i can tell the S2 V40s ended around 2003-4?. Are the diesel engines on these any good? and what sort of mpg / are people getting ?. On the next gen V50 are the diesel engines a big improvement? Are any of the petrol versions worth a look for reasonable mpg?
forget the v50, i have two v40's 1.9d sports (2001,2002).very relaible, average 50mpg. just check the turbo's (100000, 150000). read gatos's buying guide.
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The V50 diesels are the Ford 2.0 diesel which have issues with DPFs failing (£1000 to replace) along with apparent poor economy, my 1.9D V40 does between 45mpg and 60mpg and I know that it won't ever have an issue, I think Biotoxic's 1.9D had its first issue at 250k miles with a stuck thermostat....that was it lol

Check out this review guide on the V50:

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/volvo/v50-2004/

Here are the recalls on the V50 (Volvos has basically gone down hill since Ford had something to do with them)

Summer 2005 TSB for 5-cylinder petrol automatics for a free software update to improve mpg and gear changing. July 2006: 'Active Service Action. A56018'
"Volvo quality follow-up procedures have identified that on a small number of S40/V50 models the parking brake has not been properly engaged whilst the car is parked, resulting in the car being able to roll away. As a result, Volvo Car Corporation has decided that potentially affected vehicles should have an adjustment carried out to the parking brake mechanism. It has also been decided to update the Owner's Manual, including the provision of a supplementary instruction booklet. This provides clarification on correct use of the parking brake." Early 2007 TSB to modify the brake vacuum pump/servo on pre 2007MY 2.0 diesels to same spec as 2007MY.

On HDIs, rubber cushioned timing belt pulley needs replacing at same time as timing belt (60k - 70k miles) otherwise can separate.

11/12/2006 R/2007/006 VOLVO CAR S40 engine may fail YV1MS765262177211 to YV1MS765262177211

29/11/2007 R/2007/176 VOLVO CAR C30, S40 & V50braking performance may be affected 0000000000016378000000000000193791

29/11/2007 R/2007/176 VOLVO CAR C30, S40 & V50braking performance may be affected 0000000000016200300000000000295267

21/01/2008 R/2008/013 VOLVO CAR S40 and V50 engine fuel pump may fail000001168553

05/03/2008 R/2008/040 VOLVO CAR C30, S40, V50 AND C70 reduced braking performance 297302305575

25/04/2008 R/2008/066 VOLVO CAR S40, V50 AND C30r ear wheels may loosen 391077391907

17/07/2008 R/2008/112 VOLVO CAR C30, S40, V50, C70. power steering pipe may leak. S40 403368-432659S40 403368-432659

22/07/2008 R/2008/116 VOLVO CAR C30, S40 & V50accelerator pedal may not return to resting position 363521442033

06/03/2009 R/2009/024 VOLVO CAR S40, V50, C30 possible engine bay fire

22-4-2009: Volvo Cars is to recall over 20,000 2007 build C30s, S40s and V50 diesels across Europe to check for faulty cooling fans. The company will install a plastic cover over the fan, spokeswoman Maria Bohlin told AFP. "There is a control module in the cooling system and because there was a manufacturing problem with this module... water might get into it and in the worse case scenario lead to short circuits," she added. Letters had already been sent out to owners.

08/05/2009 R/2009/052 VOLVO CAR S80, V70, C30, C70, S40 & V50. Brakes may not perform adequately. VIN 478233 to 494177

21/12/2009 R/2009/155 VOLVO CAR C30, C70, S40, V50 & V70. Gearbox may not engage or shift gears as intended. VIN 539517 to 549194

2010 TSB related to rising sump oil levels in D5 Diesel engines with a DPF which is caused by excess fuel entering the engine sump via cylinders during DPF regeneration cycles. The solution is to reprogram the engine management software to reduce the volume of fuel used during the regeneration cycle and drain the excess oil back to midway between the min/max levels on the dip stick, then keep an eye on it. Really, any engine that has had its lube oil contaminated by diesel needs a lube oil change.

12/05/2010 R/2010/051 VOLVO CAR C30, S40, V50, C70, XC60, V70, XC70 & S80. Engine speed may not decrease. VIN 180043 to 569282

11/06/2010 R/2010/071 VOLVO CAR XC70, V70, S80, XC90, C30, S40, V50, C70, XC60. Gearbox may jam. VIN 543653 to 579597

21/09/2010 R/2010/144 VOLVO CAR C30, S40 and V50. Engine may overheat. VIN 590038 to 592370

03/12/2010 R/2010/224 VOLVO CAR C30, S40, V50, S60, V60, XC60, V70, XC70 & S80. Fire may occur. VIN 610264 to 613753

22/12/2010 R/2010/233 VOLVO CAR S40, V50 S60, XC60 Passenger seat may not be fitted correctly. VIN 488548 to 609751

18/02/2011 R/2011/019 VOLVO CAR C30, S40 & V50. Fire may occur. VIN 270042 to 313561

23/03/2011 R/2011/031 VOLVO CAR C30, S40 & V50. Support member may crack. VIN 617057 to 619500

28/06/2011 R/2011/075 VOLVO CAR C30, V50 and S40. Brakes may not perform as expected. VIN 419200 tp 614323

07/09/2011 R/2011/127 VOLVO CAR C30, S40, V50 and C70. Clutch pedal mechanism may fail. VIN 395420 to 627723

01/12/2011 R/2011/163 VOLVO CAR C30, S40, V50 and C70. Fluid may leak into wiring harness which may cause fire. VIN 396179 to 572324
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Thanks for the quick answers guys

What kind of mpg do you get with the 1.9D? Presumably theyre pre DPF era engines ? Are they a volvo engine or an-others?
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Thanks for the quick answers guys

What kind of mpg do you get with the 1.9D? Presumably theyre pre DPF era engines ? Are they a volvo engine or an-others?
I personally get 45mpg around town and it gets up to about 60mpg on the motorway, its a renault unit (same as the megane and the laguna) except Volvo have fixed all the issues with it and the only thing you need to watch for is simply to clean out the EGR valve which can get clogged but very easy to clean out. They have a diesel cat rather than a DPF so no issues at all with them, they are a very reliable car and reliable engine.

I spent about 3 months researching into different cars to find a car that I would be keeping for a while, I initially looked at the S40 but decided to get a V40 as its the same size but has more boot space. I chose the V40 as its reliable, safe, high spec, looks good, drives well and excelent value for money. All of the other cars I looked at had issues, I couldn't find anything wrong with the V40, you get a lot of car for your money.
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From what I've heard the 1.9Ds average between 45-55mpg. Personally I would go with the 1.9D rather than the newer Ford 2.0D. I will say that I have a neighbor with a 2.0D V50 and they've never had a problem with it.
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From what I've heard the 1.9Ds average between 45-55mpg. Personally I would go with the 1.9D rather than the newer Ford 2.0D. I will say that I have a neighbor with a 2.0D V50 and they've never had a problem with it.
I think its a bit of a mixxed bag with the newer 2.0D, I think it becomes an issue if you don't get it up to temperature and the particulates don't burn off which then clogs everything, from my time of this forums I havn't really come across anyone who has had a major issue with the 1.9D, its usually EGR related which is free to clean vs the posibility of a more expensive part failing like the DPF on the 2.0Ds.
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I think its a bit of a mixxed bag with the newer 2.0D, I think it becomes an issue if you don't get it up to temperature and the particulates don't burn off which then clogs everything, from my time of this forums I havn't really come across anyone who has had a major issue with the 1.9D, its usually EGR related which is free to clean vs the posibility of a more expensive part failing like the DPF on the 2.0Ds.
Yep. I would go with the 1.9d for this reason
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I too did lots of research before choosing a V40, Mines 2001 ph2 1.9d sport and I'm glad I bought it. I had cause to remove the head about 6 months ago due to a snapped of glowplug, the previous owner had put it in cross thread. I was amazed at the engine condition. It's done 112,000+ miles and shows no sign of wear at all. great engine.

I get 45-46 around town and bendy back roads, the most I have had so far on a long run is 61.4mpg and I ain't complaining about that.

Just be careful with the plastic dipstick they snap.
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