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Sep 17th, 2019, 23:32 | #11 | |
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I don't mind cars being fitted with the electric bollocks for parking but feel the manual lever independant emergency brake should be compulsory
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Sep 18th, 2019, 05:50 | #12 |
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Having had some recent experience on a manual, not a volvo tho.. there are a few places where the epb can be a scary place to use, one being if your parked on a hill (front of car downhill) between parked cars (with min spacing), and needing to reverse back, then the ability a cable handbrake gives to release at the right point is a def advantage..but otherwise epb s seem to work in most places ok.
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Sep 18th, 2019, 06:59 | #13 |
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I have both EPB and a cable arrangement owning both a Volvo and a landrover. I can swap between them with no problem and always use them.
The landrover having a separate large drum brake behind the gearbox is a very good brake but does give the chariteristic landrover lurch when applied and foot taken off the football as the transmition settles which has alarmed both passengers and the car in front at times.. If nessesary I also leave the car in gear. The only vehicle I leave with the brakes off is the caravan while in storage, then the wheels are securely chocked front and back and at least one of the steadies front and back are in contact with the ground. As it's stored in a barn the danger of runaway is very minimal. Paul. |
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Sep 18th, 2019, 07:57 | #14 |
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Bentley Continental GT handbrake motors are more often than not cracked allowing moisture inside breaking them.
Always plastic cheap junk charged at an extortionate price! Pretty sure most cars won't let you put an electronic park brake on without stopping the car first anyway. |
Sep 18th, 2019, 12:18 | #15 |
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I couldn't drive without one! One of my pet peeves is people who come to a stop on an upwards incline, and waiting at the lights just sit there "hovering" on the clutch. My father-in-law does this all the time! His clutch was ruined in under 40,000 miles, the car was brand new.
I've tried to tell him. He pulls rank and tells me he's "been driving this way for years" and "it's how I was taught" and other twaddle. I tell him he's riding the clutch. He denies this, saying he's "using" the clutch. What he fails to realise is, if that cable snaps or his foot slips off, somebody's legs are gonna get broken. He openly admits he never, ever, uses the handbrake except to release it at the start of his journey, and to apply it at the journeys' end. I think it all comes out of mixture of pride and stubborness. He mastered clutch control early on, believed that makes him a good driver, and stopped learning at that point. In his mind, driving is clutch control and nothing more. I think he genuinely believes he's a good driver. The guy is dangerous and shouldn't be on the road at all, imho. Now that I've ranted that lot off my chest, the thought of an electronic handbrake fills me with dread. I need to feel the brake bite. I need to know it's working or not. To me, balancing handbrake, clutch and throttle is essential. I just don't see how that's achieved with an on/off button, and I don't think I could operate a car safely that way. My opinion is the mechanical handbrake is an essential part of a vehicle. |
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Sep 18th, 2019, 12:30 | #16 |
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Handbrake is far from redundant, and should be applied the moment you become stationary. Of course, people dont and hold the car with the foot brake - you're not in proper control, your risking brake disc warping, and it's an offence to use your lights (including your brake lights) in a manner that could dazzle another road user.
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Sep 18th, 2019, 16:10 | #18 | |
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I think it is only 30% of new cars have a mechanical hand brake now. There's a reason for that, epb are better 👍
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