T4 finally turning into a beast

[t5frankie]

Originally Posted by mitchyboy01

Thanks mate, hope it's ok tomorrow!

With Frankie you gotta learn not to bite lol He is a good lad and contributes a lot on VPC and a lot of banter too. People will hate if you don't have a printout, mainly because they have spent a lot of money to get to 300bhp themselves using big turbo's etc. I'd be made up if mine was 300 and I've spent a fair bit. Lucky the car was only 700 and sold old engine for £200. I'd love to see a 14T wound up to the max just to see what it does!

thanks for the compliment, but it stands to reason that if a 2.3 engine with a 19t produces around 300bhp at 18+psi then how can a 2.0 litre with a little turbo?

[afzalmj]

If a 2.5 litre with a K24 can produce ~350 bhp, how can a 2.0 with a K24 produce 372 bhp?



Not saying a 14T will make that sort of power, but it can make 250bhp with a decent map.

I had a 14T/16G hybrid, didn't make that much more than a 14T either.

It's all down to decent mapping.

[strbryan]

Originally Posted by mitchyboy01

A 16T, 18T and 19T will all do 300 mate. Easiest route if 300 is your goal.

So will the 15g

[t5frankie]

Originally Posted by afzalmj

If a 2.5 litre with a K24 can produce ~350 bhp, how can a 2.0 with a K24 produce 372 bhp?



Not saying a 14T will make that sort of power, but it can make 250bhp with a decent map.

I had a 14T/16G hybrid, didn't make that much more than a 14T either.

It's all down to decent mapping.

yes but a t4 engine is 4/5th's of a t5 engine, not a completely different engine, if that's the case a 14t on a bigger 2.3 like mine should make 370bhp or so

[t5frankie]

Originally Posted by strbryan

So will the 15g

prove it

[mitchyboy01]

Originally Posted by t5frankie

yes but a t4 engine is 4/5th's of a t5 engine, not a completely different engine, if that's the case a 14t on a bigger 2.3 like mine should make 370bhp or so

This is not true mate, you need to research air flow rates on turbos.

Frankie, its not about displacement its about airflow. A 19T can flow X amount of air at X psi. Displacement is irrelevent apart from spool time as long as the engine can flow what the turbo can produce. If a 19T makes 298 @ 18psi on a 2.3 it will be pretty much the same on a 2.0 @ 18psi as it's flowing the same amount of air. The only difference is how restrictive the exhaust, inlet and head is. Hence a flowed head allowing more power, a big exhaust is more power etc. If a turbo is rated to say 39lb/min of air like the 19T, that is the max whether on a 1.6, 2.3, 3.0, 5.0. Displacement is irrelevent as long as the engine can flow the amount of air the turbo can produce.

As a rough rule of thumb you can make 9bhp from 1lb/min. So a 19T maxed out (39lb/min) on a good flowing set up will max at around 350bhp.

If what your saying is true, on a 4.6litre engine a 19T would produce 600bhp @18 psi

[strbryan]

Originally Posted by t5frankie

yes but a t4 engine is 4/5th's of a t5 engine, not a completely different engine, if that's the case a 14t on a bigger 2.3 like mine should make 370bhp or so

How can a 14t produce more power on a bigger engine?

Originally Posted by t5frankie

prove it

Like it really matters, however my car is listed on the chav forum under the Awsome GTI rolling road meet..

[bonelorry]

Taken from the Awesome GTI thread in 2009...

Pault5 estates mate - Fiesta 1.25 Zetec = 75bhp
Chris Kay - 480 turbo - 140bhp
Frogster - 960 3ltr 24V - 151bhp
MarkyV70RRR - P1 V70 AWD - 204bhp
T5Pete - 850 T5 - 217bhp
Cameron - 850 T5 - 222bhp
Liddo - C70 T5 - 224bhp
Pault5estate - 850 T5 - 226bhp
Mike Arnold - C70 T5 - 230bhp
Natht5 - 850 T5 - 242bhp. Kez - S70 T5 - 248bhp
Tomcat - 850 T5 - 264bhp
Yosser - P1 V70 T5 - 267bhp
Wegal - S60 T5 - 277bhp
Chad - P1 V70R 2WD - 285bhp
Tony-t5 - 850 T5 - 303bhp
Joules - P2 V70 T5 - 311bhp
Pault5estates mate - Nissan 300zx - 354bhp
Volkswagen Golf GTI - 405bhp

I know for a fact this car had a 15G fitted at the time of the RR session

[strbryan]

Thanks Simon..

[t5frankie]

all good fun ladies lol