ATF Change - Page 4

triumph · Mar 17th, 2009, 13:26

I have just been reading this thread and Iam totally confused I have a s80 2000 140 and need to change the fluid has anyone done this and driven a few thousand miles and which fluid did they use, I have to say this will be the last Volvo I buy,Merc for me next time

jtaw45 · Mar 17th, 2009, 15:03

Depends which gearbox you have. Merc's are not without their problems either.

triumph · Mar 19th, 2009, 13:48

True. How do I find out which auto box I have

triumph · Mar 19th, 2009, 13:49

Looks like AW5 box

jtaw45 · Mar 19th, 2009, 16:14

Then your oil must meet jws3309 spec, read the various threads and make your choice,i've gone for the amsoil.

jiffy176 · Mar 31st, 2009, 11:35

Just had a quote from my local inde to do an ATF flush and change. around £85 all in.

This was for an S60 so don't know if it is any different for the XC's using genuine volvo stuff to.
I spoke to the tech and he explained how they do it and it includes pumping all the old stuff out.
They garage I spoke with also give 10 percent to voc, so might be worth a call and a drive if you are in the south or west. It is ACC UK ltd in Farnborough. My S60 has had a few issues since i brought it in Nov and they have bent over backwards to help.
Also having the cambelt, tensioner and idler done whilst there as they came out very competitive on labour rates.

Finbo · Mar 31st, 2009, 11:55

That seems very good value indeed.
What ATF are they using - is it the genuine Volvo stuff or something else?
Does the ATF on a S60/80 also need to meet JWS 3309 spec as well? If it does, it will be important to know exacxtly what oil they're using.

How much ATF is there in the S60/80 gearbox? If the garage is using genuine Volvo ATF, then it's definately worth considering driving to them and getting it changed while you wait, etc

Cheers,

Finbo

oilburner · Apr 1st, 2009, 09:08

"Does the ATF on a S60/80 also need to meet JWS 3309 spec as well?"

Yes it does! Any S60/S80/V70/XC70/XC90 with the Aisin Warner box (i.e. everything but the old 2.9 and T6 engines with autos) will need JWS3309. (this applies to ALL 5 speed auto boxes used in Volvos, not certain about the newer 6 speed units, yet).

To do a proper flush, you need at least 12L of genuine ATF. I find it difficult to believe they can source that much and include labour charges for £85. Chances are they are using Dextron III which WILL kill these autoboxes.

RoyMacDonald · Apr 1st, 2009, 12:19

My 2003 XC90 Owners manual says the GM4T65EV/GT(4-Speed GM automatic, FWD/AWD) "needs Dextron IIIG"

The AW55-50/51 (5-speed automatic, FWD/AWD) That's the Asin Warner geartronic. Needs "Volvo gearbox oil part no. 1161540-8 Do not blend with any other oil!"

I have the AW55-50/51 and use Amsoil full synthetic ATF and it's been fine for the last 2 years.

Roy

Finbo · Apr 1st, 2009, 19:28

I rang the garage (ACC UK Ltd) and they confirmed they only use the genuine Volvo ATF.

But for a full flush the price would be a lot more than the £85 quoted. I was told around 6 litres would be used in the process which is very different to what Oilburner says (12 litres). I was also told they would use a flushing liquid in the process and that's why only 6 litres of genuine ATF would be used as the flushing liquid would help take everything out before the new ATF is put in.

Mar 31st, 2009, 11:35	#36
jiffy176 Member Last Online: Sep 16th, 2016 17:32 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Yateley	Just had a quote from my local inde to do an ATF flush and change. around £85 all in. This was for an S60 so don't know if it is any different for the XC's using genuine volvo stuff to. I spoke to the tech and he explained how they do it and it includes pumping all the old stuff out. They garage I spoke with also give 10 percent to voc, so might be worth a call and a drive if you are in the south or west. It is ACC UK ltd in Farnborough. My S60 has had a few issues since i brought it in Nov and they have bent over backwards to help. Also having the cambelt, tensioner and idler done whilst there as they came out very competitive on labour rates. __________________ 2002 (52) S60 D5

Apr 1st, 2009, 09:08	#38
oilburner Volvo är stor! Last Online: Apr 21st, 2024 21:38 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bromsgrove	"Does the ATF on a S60/80 also need to meet JWS 3309 spec as well?" Yes it does! Any S60/S80/V70/XC70/XC90 with the Aisin Warner box (i.e. everything but the old 2.9 and T6 engines with autos) will need JWS3309. (this applies to ALL 5 speed auto boxes used in Volvos, not certain about the newer 6 speed units, yet). To do a proper flush, you need at least 12L of genuine ATF. I find it difficult to believe they can source that much and include labour charges for £85. Chances are they are using Dextron III which WILL kill these autoboxes. __________________ Pete Richardson 2019 V90 T4 (me) & 2017 Volvo XC60 D4 AWD (other half) Gone but not forgotten: 2016 V60 CC AWD, 2015 V70 D4, 2005 S80 D5 and 2001 V70 2.4

Apr 1st, 2009, 12:19	#39
RoyMacDonald VOC Member Last Online: Feb 1st, 2023 11:27 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Rye, East Sussex View Photos By: RoyMacDonald	My 2003 XC90 Owners manual says the GM4T65EV/GT(4-Speed GM automatic, FWD/AWD) "needs Dextron IIIG" The AW55-50/51 (5-speed automatic, FWD/AWD) That's the Asin Warner geartronic. Needs "Volvo gearbox oil part no. 1161540-8 Do not blend with any other oil!" I have the AW55-50/51 and use Amsoil full synthetic ATF and it's been fine for the last 2 years. Roy __________________ 1984 245 SE 1986 345 SE Auto 1991 940 TD Auto 2003 XC90 D5 SE AWD Geartronic2002 V70 D5 SE Auto 2014 V40 D2 SE Tiptronic Cross Country 2017 V40 D2 Cross Country Geartronic Pro 2015 XC60 D5 Polestar SE Lux Nav AWD Geartronic

Mar 17th, 2009, 13:26	#31
triumph New Member Last Online: Mar 22nd, 2012 09:51 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: reading	I have just been reading this thread and Iam totally confused I have a s80 2000 140 and need to change the fluid has anyone done this and driven a few thousand miles and which fluid did they use, I have to say this will be the last Volvo I buy,Merc for me next time

Mar 17th, 2009, 15:03	#32
jtaw45 Senior Member Last Online: Feb 13th, 2024 10:42 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hull	Depends which gearbox you have. Merc's are not without their problems either.

Mar 19th, 2009, 13:48	#33
triumph New Member Last Online: Mar 22nd, 2012 09:51 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: reading	True. How do I find out which auto box I have

Mar 19th, 2009, 13:49	#34
triumph New Member Last Online: Mar 22nd, 2012 09:51 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: reading	Looks like AW5 box

Mar 19th, 2009, 16:14	#35
jtaw45 Senior Member Last Online: Feb 13th, 2024 10:42 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hull	Then your oil must meet jws3309 spec, read the various threads and make your choice,i've gone for the amsoil.

Mar 31st, 2009, 11:55	#37
Finbo Member Last Online: Apr 5th, 2024 19:29 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Somerset	That seems very good value indeed. What ATF are they using - is it the genuine Volvo stuff or something else? Does the ATF on a S60/80 also need to meet JWS 3309 spec as well? If it does, it will be important to know exacxtly what oil they're using. How much ATF is there in the S60/80 gearbox? If the garage is using genuine Volvo ATF, then it's definately worth considering driving to them and getting it changed while you wait, etc Cheers, Finbo

Apr 1st, 2009, 19:28	#40
Finbo Member Last Online: Apr 5th, 2024 19:29 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Somerset	I rang the garage (ACC UK Ltd) and they confirmed they only use the genuine Volvo ATF. But for a full flush the price would be a lot more than the £85 quoted. I was told around 6 litres would be used in the process which is very different to what Oilburner says (12 litres). I was also told they would use a flushing liquid in the process and that's why only 6 litres of genuine ATF would be used as the flushing liquid would help take everything out before the new ATF is put in.

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