Engine movement

pyro · Mar 26th, 2020, 21:24

Hey all,
I've got a problem with the V70 tdi,

There has been quite a bit of movement in the Engine, like a swinging movement when turning the osf wheel. Its done this for a little while, with no noticable vibration etc, so...
I replaced the lower two (front and back) engine mounts last month (thinking this would cure it) the torque bar at the lower front is tight, the mount under the pulley is about 2 years old (12k miles).

There is a vibration that presents itself when turning left, ie loading the right hand side of the car. It is not a cv joint "click" more of a grumble.

I am thinking it is either the inner cv joint - partially siezed. Or the pulley mount is too soft.
The driveshaft isn't that old, a new replacement (not volvo) (maybe 2 years old again)

I've attached a link to a youtube video that should (maybe!) show the movement involved.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENW5h5gid5w

any advice appreciated!

cheers
Ben

Baffler · Mar 27th, 2020, 04:40

It looks as though the driveshaft is sitting away from that curved engine bracket and the inner CV is possibly making contact with the subframe as a result. Check to see if the C shaped part of the bracket is intact. It clamps the driveshaft bearing to the engine bracket with two screws.

huron · Mar 27th, 2020, 08:47

That inner CV joint doesn't look aligned properly, that's the first thing I'd look at.

pyro · Mar 27th, 2020, 20:30

Well it looks like the c-clamp is in place, holding the bearing correctly (I think!) the shaft is also fully engaged with the gbox/diff.

The pictures are showing the car jacked up, ie full "droop"

I'm of course doing negligable miles at the moment (even less having had a look at whats going on here!), but if I can get to my workshop tomorrow then I'll try pull the driveshaft for a closer look.
It does look like that inner cv joint is dislocated somehow.

cheers

Ben

https://i166.photobucket.com/albums/...psr9ictmnt.jpg

https://i166.photobucket.com/albums/...pslhwrwguv.jpg

edit: tried embeded images but they were enormous!

ITSv40 · Mar 27th, 2020, 21:10

Looking at the second photo, the inner CV joint is definitely out of line. The outer joint looks correctly aligned and the inner should look similar. I think you will find that the joint cage has collapsed.

pyro · Mar 27th, 2020, 23:14

Cheers all, much appreciated.

Can anyone confirm a part number for the driveshaft?
Vida is showing 8601574 or 8602608

however skandix, and others are giving me - 8251759 -

My usual parts fella is shut down for the forseable future due to the virus!

thanks all

stay safe.
B

Mar 26th, 2020, 21:24	#1
pyro Volvo V70 2.5D Last Online: Yesterday 19:36 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: york	Engine movement Hey all, I've got a problem with the V70 tdi, There has been quite a bit of movement in the Engine, like a swinging movement when turning the osf wheel. Its done this for a little while, with no noticable vibration etc, so... I replaced the lower two (front and back) engine mounts last month (thinking this would cure it) the torque bar at the lower front is tight, the mount under the pulley is about 2 years old (12k miles). There is a vibration that presents itself when turning left, ie loading the right hand side of the car. It is not a cv joint "click" more of a grumble. I am thinking it is either the inner cv joint - partially siezed. Or the pulley mount is too soft. The driveshaft isn't that old, a new replacement (not volvo) (maybe 2 years old again) I've attached a link to a youtube video that should (maybe!) show the movement involved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENW5h5gid5w any advice appreciated! cheers Ben

Mar 27th, 2020, 04:40	#2
Baffler Premier Member Last Online: Apr 18th, 2024 19:44 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Co. Limerick, Ireland	It looks as though the driveshaft is sitting away from that curved engine bracket and the inner CV is possibly making contact with the subframe as a result. Check to see if the C shaped part of the bracket is intact. It clamps the driveshaft bearing to the engine bracket with two screws. __________________ Liam... '96 854 TDI SE, '99 V70 2.5D S, '05 C70 2.0T Collection, '05 S80 2.0T SE, '15 V70 D4 SE Lux Nav.

Mar 27th, 2020, 08:47	#3
huron Master Member Last Online: Dec 19th, 2020 16:24 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Bodmin	That inner CV joint doesn't look aligned properly, that's the first thing I'd look at. __________________ huron 2009 V70 2.4 geartronic in red.

Mar 27th, 2020, 20:30	#4
pyro Volvo V70 2.5D Last Online: Yesterday 19:36 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: york	Well it looks like the c-clamp is in place, holding the bearing correctly (I think!) the shaft is also fully engaged with the gbox/diff. The pictures are showing the car jacked up, ie full "droop" I'm of course doing negligable miles at the moment (even less having had a look at whats going on here!), but if I can get to my workshop tomorrow then I'll try pull the driveshaft for a closer look. It does look like that inner cv joint is dislocated somehow. cheers Ben https://i166.photobucket.com/albums/...psr9ictmnt.jpg https://i166.photobucket.com/albums/...pslhwrwguv.jpg edit: tried embeded images but they were enormous! Last edited by pyro; Mar 27th, 2020 at 20:33.

Mar 27th, 2020, 21:10	#5
ITSv40 VOC Member Last Online: Yesterday 22:32 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Northampton	Looking at the second photo, the inner CV joint is definitely out of line. The outer joint looks correctly aligned and the inner should look similar. I think you will find that the joint cage has collapsed. __________________ 2001 V40 2.0lt Sport lux - Daily Driver. 174k miles. 2003 C70 2.4 GT Convertible - Garage Queen. 65k miles. http://www.neptuno6benagil.com

Mar 27th, 2020, 23:14	#6
pyro Volvo V70 2.5D Last Online: Yesterday 19:36 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: york	Cheers all, much appreciated. Can anyone confirm a part number for the driveshaft? Vida is showing 8601574 or 8602608 however skandix, and others are giving me - 8251759 - My usual parts fella is shut down for the forseable future due to the virus! thanks all stay safe. B

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