Engine: D5244: - Camshaft confusion

jjkenya · Dec 9th, 2016, 17:24

My engine blew - http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=258608 - another story.

So I ordered a replacement engine from ACD Volvo Breakers after they assured me they checked it out and it would fit. It's taken the garage who are fitting the engine a while to work out why it would start but not properly... everything on the outside looks the same. It turns out the camshaft I had in the original engine superseded the one in the replacement engine (i.e. original was newer).
My original shaft has part number 31216227
The replacement shaft has part number 30731132

See photos here: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-...GpxNVRyWFJHZUE

Unfortunately the originals were damaged by the blown engine, so we can't lift them out and replace the older ones. The only available 31216227's are in Sweden (5d lead time), £373.20 each.

I'm no engine guru so not sure the exact reason this won't work but it doesn't work properly (the engine runs but it doesn't start easily?). Can anyone comment on these questions:

What would your approach be to the breaker and what would you expect from them?

Can Volvo reprogram my ECU to accept the replacement engine with its camshafts, or is that not possible?
Is there a solution I'm not thinking of, other than replaceing the cams? The garage has expressed that removing the engine is going to take a much longer time than replacing them.

I have been unable to speak to ACD today but have emailed them the issue and asked them if they can supply the camshafts free of charge as it was their error. Hmmmm.

Beginning to believe that Volvo is my Friday 13th.

cheshired5 · Dec 9th, 2016, 19:01

Talking about replacement engines without a mention of engine codes could get confusing so what are the D5 engine codes for your original engine and the replacement engine?

They'll be D5244T? or D5244T??

jjkenya · Dec 9th, 2016, 19:54

Maybe someone knows how to find this out, I'd need to check it with the garage I suppose.

cheshired5 · Dec 9th, 2016, 19:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjkenya

Maybe someone knows how to find this out, I'd need to check it with the garage I suppose. Reg is YF58 FBK.

Your original will be easy to work out as you just need digits 6 and 7 from your 17 digit chassis number.

The "new" engine will hopefully still have it printed on the timing belt cover.

jjkenya · Dec 10th, 2016, 09:04

@cheshired5:

The VIN is: *****71*********
The original engine number is: 692707

Let me know if that helps?

cheshired5 · Dec 10th, 2016, 09:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjkenya

@cheshired5:

The VIN is: *****71*********
The original engine number is: 692707

Let me know if that helps?

Your original engine is a D5244T4 so the first thing to check is whether the same D5 code is on the timing cover of the new engine.

phil1968 · Dec 10th, 2016, 17:19

If the breaker you bought the engine from was one that deals specifically in Volvo engines they should have known this. So yes, I think you have recourse with them.

jjkenya · Dec 12th, 2016, 10:59

The replacement engine is a D5244T3... Mine is a T4.

cheshired5 · Dec 12th, 2016, 11:11

To be honest, I've never heard of a D5244T3
Hopefully someone can enlighten us.

No matter.
Trying to start an engine using an ECM from a different version isn't going to work.

wimorrison · Dec 12th, 2016, 11:30

http://www.volvohowto.com/versions-e...v70-2000-2008/

Dec 9th, 2016, 17:24	#1
jjkenya Junior Member Last Online: Mar 20th, 2021 22:30 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Aberdeenshire	Camshaft confusion My engine blew - http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=258608 - another story. So I ordered a replacement engine from ACD Volvo Breakers after they assured me they checked it out and it would fit. It's taken the garage who are fitting the engine a while to work out why it would start but not properly... everything on the outside looks the same. It turns out the camshaft I had in the original engine superseded the one in the replacement engine (i.e. original was newer). My original shaft has part number 31216227 The replacement shaft has part number 30731132 See photos here: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-...GpxNVRyWFJHZUE Unfortunately the originals were damaged by the blown engine, so we can't lift them out and replace the older ones. The only available 31216227's are in Sweden (5d lead time), £373.20 each. I'm no engine guru so not sure the exact reason this won't work but it doesn't work properly (the engine runs but it doesn't start easily?). Can anyone comment on these questions: What would your approach be to the breaker and what would you expect from them? Can Volvo reprogram my ECU to accept the replacement engine with its camshafts, or is that not possible? Is there a solution I'm not thinking of, other than replaceing the cams? The garage has expressed that removing the engine is going to take a much longer time than replacing them. I have been unable to speak to ACD today but have emailed them the issue and asked them if they can supply the camshafts free of charge as it was their error. Hmmmm. Beginning to believe that Volvo is my Friday 13th. Last edited by jjkenya; Dec 9th, 2016 at 17:34.

Dec 9th, 2016, 19:01	#2
cheshired5 Premier Member Last Online: Dec 26th, 2021 13:42 Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Crewe	Talking about replacement engines without a mention of engine codes could get confusing so what are the D5 engine codes for your original engine and the replacement engine? They'll be D5244T? or D5244T?? __________________ 2002 S60 SE D5 Manual 209000 miles

Dec 9th, 2016, 19:54	#3
jjkenya Junior Member Last Online: Mar 20th, 2021 22:30 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Aberdeenshire	Maybe someone knows how to find this out, I'd need to check it with the garage I suppose. Last edited by jjkenya; Dec 9th, 2016 at 20:50.

Dec 10th, 2016, 17:19	#7
phil1968 Master Member Last Online: Jul 27th, 2020 23:19 Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Chatham	If the breaker you bought the engine from was one that deals specifically in Volvo engines they should have known this. So yes, I think you have recourse with them. __________________ 2008 C70 D5 SE Lux Nav Geartronic

Dec 12th, 2016, 11:11	#9
cheshired5 Premier Member Last Online: Dec 26th, 2021 13:42 Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Crewe	To be honest, I've never heard of a D5244T3 Hopefully someone can enlighten us. No matter. Trying to start an engine using an ECM from a different version isn't going to work. __________________ 2002 S60 SE D5 Manual 209000 miles Last edited by cheshired5; Dec 12th, 2016 at 11:13.

Dec 10th, 2016, 09:04	#5
jjkenya Junior Member Last Online: Mar 20th, 2021 22:30 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Aberdeenshire	@cheshired5: The VIN is: ***71******* The original engine number is: 692707 Let me know if that helps?

Dec 12th, 2016, 10:59	#8
jjkenya Junior Member Last Online: Mar 20th, 2021 22:30 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Aberdeenshire	The replacement engine is a D5244T3... Mine is a T4.

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