Poor starting

bravemeister · Aug 4th, 2019, 12:27

Afternoon folks,

I've got an issue with a v70 manual D5, 54 plate.

This is a friends car that has a starting problem that takes ages to crank over, and eventually fires.

It recently went in to limp mode and said friend booked it in to a garage to get it sorted. Turned out to be the EGR. Friend was then relieved of £600.....

Day later car is a complete no starter. Me to the rescue. I got it started with a little squirt of easy start and then got it driven to my house so I could work on it.

As part of its EGR replacement, the fuel filter was also replaced.

I've tested the glow plugs with a multi meter and all read 1.1 ohms so in my mind are all ok. As this is a common rail and its 20 ish degrees today I can't see that if the glow plugs will be getting used to start the engine.

On contacting the garage they have suggested that all the injectors are duff and will need replacing to sort the starting issue.

I would tend to agree, however after having done a leak off test (no more than 40ml in 1 minute) the injectors are all returning the same amount, of which is WAY less than 40ml.

I'm aware that some folks are talking about a cylinder balance test to see if the ECU is compensating. What piece of software do I need to do this, and do I need a special cable? Can it be done with a generic bluetooth dongle?

There is also a bit of hunting on idle, only VERY slightly though. I'm guessing something to do with the suction control valve?

Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.

Matt

rxtian · Aug 5th, 2019, 10:43

Hi

The software you need is called VIDA, and the interface cable is called DiCE. There’s a guy on the forum that sells complete tested setups, or you can take your chances with eBay.

Hope that helps.

bravemeister · Aug 5th, 2019, 12:32

Hi,

Thanks for the reply.

Do you know what his user is?

Martin Cox · Aug 5th, 2019, 16:28

I believe cheshired5 is the gentleman in question.

Martin

reggit · Aug 5th, 2019, 19:02

Check/change fuel filter to start with, often overlooked and can block if left starving car of fuel.

bravemeister · Aug 5th, 2019, 20:13

Hi,

Thanks for your reply

Fuel filter already changed by the garage at my recommendation

Regards

Matt

Aug 4th, 2019, 12:27	#1
bravemeister New Member Last Online: Aug 12th, 2019 23:23 Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: North Yorkshire	Poor starting Afternoon folks, I've got an issue with a v70 manual D5, 54 plate. This is a friends car that has a starting problem that takes ages to crank over, and eventually fires. It recently went in to limp mode and said friend booked it in to a garage to get it sorted. Turned out to be the EGR. Friend was then relieved of £600..... Day later car is a complete no starter. Me to the rescue. I got it started with a little squirt of easy start and then got it driven to my house so I could work on it. As part of its EGR replacement, the fuel filter was also replaced. I've tested the glow plugs with a multi meter and all read 1.1 ohms so in my mind are all ok. As this is a common rail and its 20 ish degrees today I can't see that if the glow plugs will be getting used to start the engine. On contacting the garage they have suggested that all the injectors are duff and will need replacing to sort the starting issue. I would tend to agree, however after having done a leak off test (no more than 40ml in 1 minute) the injectors are all returning the same amount, of which is WAY less than 40ml. I'm aware that some folks are talking about a cylinder balance test to see if the ECU is compensating. What piece of software do I need to do this, and do I need a special cable? Can it be done with a generic bluetooth dongle? There is also a bit of hunting on idle, only VERY slightly though. I'm guessing something to do with the suction control valve? Any pointers would be greatly appreciated. Matt

Aug 5th, 2019, 19:02	#5
reggit Premier Member Last Online: Today 07:56 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Preston	Check/change fuel filter to start with, often overlooked and can block if left starving car of fuel. __________________ 2009 Volvo V70 D5 (Polestar 225bhp) r-design 180,000 miles

Aug 5th, 2019, 10:43	#2
rxtian Senior Member Last Online: Oct 30th, 2023 18:03 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Southampton	Hi The software you need is called VIDA, and the interface cable is called DiCE. There’s a guy on the forum that sells complete tested setups, or you can take your chances with eBay. Hope that helps.

Aug 5th, 2019, 12:32	#3
bravemeister New Member Last Online: Aug 12th, 2019 23:23 Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: North Yorkshire	Hi, Thanks for the reply. Do you know what his user is?

Aug 5th, 2019, 16:28	#4
Martin Cox VOC Member Last Online: Today 10:13 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Hull	I believe cheshired5 is the gentleman in question. Martin

Aug 5th, 2019, 20:13	#6
bravemeister New Member Last Online: Aug 12th, 2019 23:23 Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: North Yorkshire	Hi, Thanks for your reply Fuel filter already changed by the garage at my recommendation Regards Matt

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