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Urgent warning: 240 thefts in south-east

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Old Nov 24th, 2018, 14:12   #51
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I had the same with my Volvo 164 a few years ago - stolen from a Council-rented lock-up nearby, and was told by a nice old lady who had my number and watched it all happen. I got an invaluable (!) crime number from the Police who told me they do nothing about car-theft..... However, we know where old cars go to be banger-raced and asked at the village garage. A truck-driver overheard and told us where he'd seen it behind a high hedge at a former battery-chicken place.
We went down an adjacent footpath and saw it there so told the Police - they didn't want to do anything about it UNTIL I suggested we'd trespass with our van-plus-trailer to retrieve it. They only got off their butts then, to advise me I would be breaking the law..... They entered with us, I showed them the V5 (despite that proclaiming it isn't proof of ownership) and asked the land-owner where he got the car: "£80 from a man at the pub" but they didn't continue with investigations.
So as has been said before, what exactly is breaking the law? When is it OK to handle stolen goods? Also how does one prove one owns a vehicle if not the V5: I bought my car privately many years earlier, before the seller died! Strikes me selective criminology.

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I bet if it was a brand-new car they'd have a different attitude. They seem to put the seriousness of the crime on monetary value of the items stolen. My £300 Astra which was stolen meant nothing to them, but it put me out of business.
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Another one bites the dust.

My 1989 Volvo 240 Estate (that was not even running, battery disconnected) was stolen today from outside my house on the street.

The driver side lock had been jammed up and the car broken into last week (noticed when I returned from holiday), but nothing had been stolen*–*not even the stereo.

Today I returned home and the car was gone. Police report has been file and I'm trolling through my CCTV footage now. If anyone sees it kicking about –*can you try and convince the filthy thieve to at least give me back my car seat? I kind of need that.
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I had the same with my Volvo 164 a few years ago - stolen from a Council-rented lock-up nearby, and was told by a nice old lady who had my number and watched it all happen. I got an invaluable (!) crime number from the Police who told me they do nothing about car-theft..... However, we know where old cars go to be banger-raced and asked at the village garage. A truck-driver overheard and told us where he'd seen it behind a high hedge at a former battery-chicken place.
We went down an adjacent footpath and saw it there so told the Police - they didn't want to do anything about it UNTIL I suggested we'd trespass with our van-plus-trailer to retrieve it. They only got off their butts then, to advise me I would be breaking the law..... They entered with us, I showed them the V5 (despite that proclaiming it isn't proof of ownership) and asked the land-owner where he got the car: "£80 from a man at the pub" but they didn't continue with investigations.
So as has been said before, what exactly is breaking the law? When is it OK to handle stolen goods? Also how does one prove one owns a vehicle if not the V5: I bought my car privately many years earlier, before the seller died! Strikes me selective criminology.

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What a bizarre story, good that you managed to recover the car yourself, but very poor by the police.

I'm not sure that police forces (generally) have done themselves many favours: they have been claiming a shortage of resources means they can't investigate theft, but then find sufficient people to harass children for playing in their own gardens during this pandemic. I can't see them doing so well in future spending allocations having lost considerable sympathy from the public.

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I bet if it was a brand-new car they'd have a different attitude.
Do you know that to be the case, or is it an unfounded conclusion you have jumped to?

I'm certainly not defending the police for not investigating crimes (I think that is very poor of them), but I suspect their attitude would have been the same regardless of the value of the car.
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The chap who first alerted me to this situation in the first place was given that exact message by the police - too busy investigating "higher value" vehicle crimes (keyless relay thefts of Range Rovers, etc) to chase after old bangers being stolen...!

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This worries me as a new member of the volvo community and proud new owner of a 240 estate se '92. The south of Manchester (where I am based) is quite notorious for vehicle theft.
Just to ponder, if anyone has suggestions for personal protection and immobilisation of their car ( like disconnected battery/ removed fuel relay) I would love to hear them. shoot me a pm if you wouldn't want your advice publicly seen.
Apologies if this is viewed as thread commandeering, just noticed the thread had been raised from the dead and thought it may be a good time for people to open a dialogue once more on the subject and see if as a community we can share our ideas with one another.
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This worries me as a new member of the volvo community and proud new owner of a 240 estate se '92. The south of Manchester (where I am based) is quite notorious for vehicle theft.
Just to ponder, if anyone has suggestions for personal protection and immobilisation of their car ( like disconnected battery/ removed fuel relay) I would love to hear them. shoot me a pm if you wouldn't want your advice publicly seen.
Apologies if this is viewed as thread commandeering, just noticed the thread had been raised from the dead and thought it may be a good time for people to open a dialogue once more on the subject and see if as a community we can share our ideas with one another.

Call me old fashioned if you like but my thoughts on this is "prevention is better than cure". I still fit my steering wheel stick lock, gearstick to handbrake lock, and clutch pedal to steering wheel steel lock rod, all painted a vivid bright yellow, on my old car. None of them are what you would call high tech, but any of them would be a pain to remove unless your well "tooled up". Hopefully it deters the chancer opportunist in terms of time and hassle to remove the car.....However I don't think professional car thieves would have a problem.....but to me its a little bit more peace of mind.
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Call me old fashioned if you like but my thoughts on this is "prevention is better than cure". I still fit my steering wheel stick lock, gearstick to handbrake lock, and clutch pedal to steering wheel steel lock rod, all painted a vivid bright yellow, on my old car. None of them are what you would call high tech, but any of them would be a pain to remove unless your well "tooled up". Hopefully it deters the chancer opportunist in terms of time and hassle to remove the car.....However I don't think professional car thieves would have a problem.....but to me its a little bit more peace of mind.
I agree that preventative measures should be taken. If it is standing for a long time, i can't see any harm in disconnecting the fuel pump relay. That provides me the peace of mind that prevents me from checking on my car at odd times of the night.
Did you purchase a specific Volvo 240 anti theft kit?
I wonder with the amount of play in the gearbox as standard with these cars whether, given enough time, a rather industrious individual might be able to figure out how to get the anti theft device off.
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the issue is in this modern world is the advancement of power tools. Many vehicle theives (mainly motorbike and Bicycles in london) carry cordless angle grinders. 30 seconds or less and a lock could be gone.
In the capital people just look on while its going on as they dont want to get involved/Injured so they get away with it.

If they want it, they will get it. Its very difficult to deter theives these days.
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