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Old Dec 7th, 2019, 09:02   #11
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The one solenoid on the drivers door makes a noise locking and unlocking.
No second noise.
Alarm light stays flashing whatever.
Turning the key in the door makes the locking button go up and down.
Interior light goes on and off with key or fob.
Petrol flap didn’t lock before anyway.
Yellow button has no effect.
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Old Dec 7th, 2019, 09:12   #12
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Some early XC70 had a trunk lock under a small black plastic cap, but your 2004 most likely doesn't. Try calling some road assistance. They know how to pull on the door and reach the handle from inside. Once opened, just lower the window and bend back the door frame so it stays aligned as before.
Have you ever tried bending a volvo door? I don't think so :-)
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Old Dec 7th, 2019, 09:15   #13
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My 2004 XC70 has deadlocked me out. I have the key and fob but neither will unlock it. Interior lights go on and off with fob but it will not unlock. Week old battery in car and I’ve tried a new battery in the fob. How can I get in without breaking a window. Any help greatly appreciated.
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It looks like you have multiple problems, is the car a bit neglected ? The drivers key is the emergency way to get in being purely mechanical , has it got a key hole on the passenger door ?
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Old Dec 7th, 2019, 11:51   #14
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The one solenoid on the drivers door makes a noise locking and unlocking.
No second noise.
Alarm light stays flashing whatever.
Turning the key in the door makes the locking button go up and down.
Interior light goes on and off with key or fob.
Petrol flap didn’t lock before anyway.
Yellow button has no effect.
Ok,
So if the alarm light stays flashing then it’s because the car still thinks the alarm is on.
The second noise would be the deadlocks coming on, which would give hope to the chances of success after breaking a window.
The key in the door should override everything and force the door open. I’ve never seen inside a Volvo one but I’m going to assume it has freewheeling locks (to stop a screwdriver or other blunt force make the barrel go round). Which means that if the locking button does indeed go up and down then the barrel mechanism must still be working, and it is, as you say, the deadlocks holding the door shut.

So, if the alarm light never goes out and the door won’t physically release the deadlocks, I’m going to guess at water getting into the CEM and corrupting the release signal, but that’s totally a guess at this stage.

The fact that the yellow button doesn’t do anything doesn’t tell you definitively if the car battery is charged. I would suggest it’s a whole lot more pleasant a clean up if you can force the bonnet open (pull out the grill and fish about from there would my starting point but I’ve never had to do it on my Volvo.) compared to breaking a window. Then you can charge the car battery, and possibly aim some heat at the CEM and potentially dry what ‘might’ be wet.

That’s where I’d start anyway...
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Old Dec 7th, 2019, 13:20   #15
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The drivers keylock is a pure mechanical device and works if the main car battery is dead. It will release the deadlock on that door if it's functioning correctly. I can only assume there is a rod or something that's failed in the door mechanism. Never been inside a volvo door, so don't know for sure.

Have you tried the passenger doors to see if one of those is releasing by any chance?
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Old Dec 8th, 2019, 13:27   #16
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My 2004 XC70 has deadlocked me out. I have the key and fob but neither will unlock it. Interior lights go on and off with fob but it will not unlock. Week old battery in car and I’ve tried a new battery in the fob. How can I get in without breaking a window. Any help greatly appreciated.
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when i was locked out of a vw passat estate a locksmith got me in by removeing the rear number plate drilling 2 small holes and used a boroscope and a stiff wire tool to flip open the deadlocked door . £40 well spent.
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The drivers key is the emergency way to get in being purely mechanical , has it got a key hole on the passenger door ?
That still worked when my CEM was dead (and the same CEM locks you out of opening both the windows and the doors from the inside... can you say "deathtrap"???)
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The drivers keylock is a pure mechanical device and works if the main car battery is dead. It will release the deadlock on that door if it's functioning correctly. I can only assume there is a rod or something that's failed in the door mechanism. Never been inside a volvo door, so don't know for sure.

Exactly, both the driver's door and the trunk lock (when present, such as in the S60) work and will open the door/trunk lid even if the car battery is disconnected. Quite common for the lock mechanism inside the door to fail - quite a few people mentioned this on forums. Unfortunately, one finds out about this only when the battery goes flat.



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Some early XC70 had a trunk lock under a small black plastic cap, but your 2004 most likely doesn't. Try calling some road assistance. They know how to pull on the door and reach the handle from inside. Once opened, just lower the window and bend back the door frame so it stays aligned as before.

Have you ever tried bending a volvo door? I don't think so :-)
Clan, yes it works but only on the window frame - at least the S60 driver's door, the frame near the B pillar. It's actually quite flexible. I got locked out of my car and a garage guy came with a kit (don't want to mention here for safety reasons) and slid a wire by the door frame, and opened from inside. The frame got bent so I had to lower the glass, grab the frame with my hands and bend it back to the correct shape. On another note, I get what you mean, the metal sheet of the body panels are crazy thick on this car, I have a dent on the front fender, no way I could press it back from behind.
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Old Dec 10th, 2019, 14:30   #19
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Had to eventually break window to get in. Put in key and car started straight up so not dead battery. However, no tacho, speedo, gear indicator, time, temperature, etc. on dash even though car runs and drives fine. Deadlocks all still locked (including boot) and alarm flashing light still flashing.
Off to Volvo specialist tomorrow to plug in.
My concern is how to get door panel off of a shut door if the deadlock has physically seized.
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Contact Lukas at http://www.volvodiagnostic.com.
He is a longstanding member here & has repaired many faulty DIM & CEM modules. https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/member.php?u=63470

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