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Volvo PV444 wins 1957 Petit Lemans at Lime Rock!

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Old Sep 20th, 2018, 13:54   #61
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OK, now I am inspired!

I consider Lime Rock my home track. People have been pestering me to get the Volvo out to wallow race in the "preservation class".
Do you know of Chris Rudnik AKA "Ricer Miata" (off of You Tube) he was there a few days ago, and comes from your neck of the woods?
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Well, I suppose I know of Chris Rudnik now.

It appears he likes to burn rubber and drift. I'm more conservative in my driving.

Found this video of a PV544 racing at Lime Rock. It's from 5 years ago.

I believe the car had been raced by the driver's father in the 1960s, and then it sat in a field for years before he pulled it out and restored it to the way his father drove it back in the day. This might have been his first outing with the car and he is a bit faster now.

I make a guest appearance in the video between 0.55 and 1.11.


https://youtu.be/ut5YP8sAmzo



Of course, at that point I was already in last place having pulled over into the Sam Posey Rest Area as evidenced in the first few minutes of this video.


https://youtu.be/9GLKH7Q-5GM

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Looking at the gear lever position was that a three speed box or did the car spend most of the time in third? Lovely sounds. The wet looked horrendous!
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You should have seen the earlier race when it was pouring. And I have an open cockpit no less!

The backside of the track is definitely third gear, as it is uphill. He was in fourth quite a bit as well.
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Seat belt conundrum. I would like to fit reasonably priced seat belts to my PV444. My chassis number is 137113 and I have some early mounting points on my B pillar and presumably under the rear seat as per this technical service bulletin:

https://www.volvoclub.org.uk/tsb55-6...p1052-No2X.pdf

But it appears that retrofitted modern seat belts will be incompatible with these mounting points. For the outside mounting point, it appears that I will need to install mounting points on the floor or on the inside of the sill just at the bottom of the B pillar. Doesn’t seem to be any access on the inner sill.

It looks like I can get access to the underside of the transmission tunnel.

Looking for suggestions on course of action, including practical advice on hardware.
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I'd treat that pdf as a historical document as it relates to the original 2 point belts. You need at least a 3 point system as fitted to later PV's and Amazons. Your racing regs may require even more but perhaps you can get away with it in this "preservation" class or whatever they call it. Centre attachment at the tunnel should be easy but you will probably have to weld in a support plate at the bottom of the B post to support the seat belt reel. Check with other PV racers maybe?
Note that the top B post mount changed about 1960 from fixed to swivel I believe, so you might need to do a mod there too.
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I'd treat that pdf as a historical document as it relates to the original 2 point belts. You need at least a 3 point system as fitted to later PV's and Amazons. Your racing regs may require even more but perhaps you can get away with it in this "preservation" class or whatever they call it. Centre attachment at the tunnel should be easy but you will probably have to weld in a support plate at the bottom of the B post to support the seat belt reel. Check with other PV racers maybe?
Note that the top B post mount changed about 1960 from fixed to swivel I believe, so you might need to do a mod there too.
Some people don't like the idea but a common fix for fitting threads to thin sheet metal structures where you can't get to the other side is rivnuts / nutserts

Used correctly these can be strong fixings but any fixing is only as strong as the bit to which it is fitted - you need to look at the specifications of the fixing and consider how expensive the larger sized threaded installation tools can get (!)

If you are racing your PV then you might find simple fixings on sheet metal are not going to pass race safety checks: I would be considering additional reinforcement for racing - but I'd probably have a roll cage onto which safety belts would be attached

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The seat belt fixings on my PV are not exactly top notch but the one thing that have going for them is that the inertia reels have more than one fixing on the sills - they do look like they are (almost) professionally installed - perhaps it would be a plan to find someone with a bit of experience in retro fitting seat belts to do the work for you?
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Thanks for the replies. Racing belts will be a different subject altogether, as I will need a 5 or 6 point harness and will probably need to install a roll bar and harness bar. Which means that I'll need a racing seat.

I've looked at a few racecars, and still can't figure out the optimum solution.

My need is more short term. I want to get the car on the road. Lap belts were retro-fitted to my car, but the attachment points were through the floor and too far forward.

Near the bottom of my B pillars is a round hole, about 1" in diameter, deflected outward somewhat, as if something was pulled through. I had assumed that maybe these were to hold the body during construction.

In other news, I gave up trying to find a replacement seat adjustment catch / latch. On my passenger side, the catch / latch is broken.

In a moment of delusional optimism, I started to fabricate a replacement from some flat stock - until it came time to twist the metal 180 degrees. I thought I was stymied, but carried on with some heat, a vice and a ball peen hammer.

My piece is still rough and unfinished - and it will never be perfect, but I can't believe that I was able to bend the metal to more or less approximate the shape. Still needs a lot of work, but I'm happy that I was able to achieve the general shape of the piece so far.
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Although I am trying to recreate the latch that controls the sliding seat mechanism, if you look at the picture in my prior post, you will also see that someone did a real shoemaker's job on fitting the seat bottom covers. Since I had to remove the upholstery to get at the latch mechanism, I'm going to try to improve the installation on at least the passenger seat. I'm sewing up all of the cuts made to get around the frame, and have sewed a hem on all four sides through which to run a heavy wire. I went on line and found the attached photo that is more like what a seat cover install should look like.


Details here. http://www.codecooker.com/howto/How%...structions.htm
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Ugh, the dreaded hog rings. I'd rather use suitably coloured tie wraps if I had to. Not quite as ugly when used where they are visible but certainly easier to fit and remove, and probably less damaging.


Useful link, thanks.
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