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Which 185/80 R14 tyres do you use?

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Old Jan 14th, 2019, 19:18   #11
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My experience of Barums is ok in the dry but crap in the wet. Know in the tyre trade as "ditch finders"
LOL...ditchfinder, thats a phrase that takes me back !...my old dad had a Riley Pathfinder in the 1950 s and his local garage called it the Riley Ditchfinder because of its poor roadholding.
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Yup, never experienced a barum thats not teflon in the wet. They are much better these days, but there are much much better for the money.

Its funny all the talk of 'owned by' yes they may be owned by, and may have a little trickle-down technology and manufacturing standards, but they are not, by any means, the same as the parent company. You get what you pay for to a greater extent.
Point to consider, Vredestein are owned by budget brand Apollo, but Vredestein are -better- tyres than apollo, infact apollo are working the other way and siphoning know-how and tech from the subsidiary.
Falken are part of sumitomo rubber, who own goodyear-dunlop, fulda are owned by goodyear, uniroyal are part of conti as are barum, bf Goodrich and kleber are part of michelin group, firestone and minerva are owned by bridgestone, and so-on. There are many others.
Your correct in saying you get what you pay for (Normally)...too many people expect Bentley quality at Fiat Panda price
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Old Jan 14th, 2019, 21:04   #13
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Yup, never experienced a barum thats not teflon in the wet. They are much better these days, but there are much much better for the money.

Its funny all the talk of 'owned by' yes they may be owned by, and may have a little trickle-down technology and manufacturing standards, but they are not, by any means, the same as the parent company. You get what you pay for to a greater extent.
Point to consider, Vredestein are owned by budget brand Apollo, but Vredestein are -better- tyres than apollo, infact apollo are working the other way and siphoning know-how and tech from the subsidiary.
Falken are part of sumitomo rubber, who own goodyear-dunlop, fulda are owned by goodyear, uniroyal are part of conti as are barum, bf Goodrich and kleber are part of michelin group, firestone and minerva are owned by bridgestone, and so-on. There are many others.

Thats very true. Even looking at the F**d ownership of Volvo, F**d used some of the good bits of Volvo and used some of the cheapening down F**d methods in cheapening down Volvo manufacturing costs. Car quality is often subjective.

In many cases a parent company owning more than 1 brand teh parent company is often the only link. The factories often have no other connection
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Old Jan 15th, 2019, 23:53   #14
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AHKVolvo - I've just put a full set of winter Hankooks on my 240 - bought on the interweb and happily fitted by a good local tyre shop. Summer tyres are Hankooks on the front/spare and once the rubbish on the back are sufficiently worn, they'll be Hankooks too - very good tyres IMHO

Like ClassicSwede said, I am running 195/65/15s (on alloys)
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I used 195/70 14’s on my Torslander. Negligible difference in rolling radius, no scrubbing/fouling and a much better choice of tyre.
This dimention has 3,5% smaller rolling diameter, and will increase rpm with 3,7% (on top gear/highway). For example, 2700 rpm with 185/80x14, will increase to 2800, for the same speed.
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This dimention has 3,5% smaller rolling diameter, and will increase rpm with 3,7% (on top gear/highway). For example, 2700 rpm with 185/80x14, will increase to 2800, for the same speed.
Yes, that’s pretty much where I calculated it.
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I do use 185/70/14. Chinese make. Surprisingly good. Found them in when I bought the car and still doing a great job.
5,7% smaller diameter, and 6,0% increase of rpm. Changing the differential gear would make a smaller difference!

If one changed a 3,54 diff to 3,73 , the rpm on the driveshaft would increase with 5,3%.
Go from 3,73 diff to 3,91 , increases rpm on driveshaft with 4,9%.
From 3,91 to 4,1 , also 4,9%.

I don't think it's a good idea if one care about engine wear, noise, and fuel consumption, at highway speeds.
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Old Jan 18th, 2019, 14:35   #18
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AHKVolvo - just in case you don't know, there are loads of resources online that allow you to calculate speed differences and appearance/clearance differences of different tyre/wheel combinations...

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Thanks all. In the end my search for 185/80 R14s was rather fruitless...all I found was one really low quality set of "house brand" tyres on eBay and some exceptionally expensive Vredesteins. All the rest were van tyres, as were what came off the car, as it transpires.

After all that, I went for a set of 175/80 R14s, which I chose as they were both spec tyre for 244s and pre PAS 245s. Got a set that were budget but not rock bottom budget, cost me just over £200 for all four fitted and balanced.

The car is absolutely transformed...SO much quieter and smoother. Road noise was an issue for me previously, and whilst I loved the car, I was somewhat perturbed by how much noisier it was than my 744. There is barely anything to call between them now, and I drove the Torslanda home from the fitter's shop in the wet-looking forward to seeing how it fares noise wise in the dry...should be great.
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Same you had to go a size smaller but at least it will drive better with now having to correct type of tyres fitted
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